On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz <mmarzantowicz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Java? This fat and ugly pig? Must be a joke. Gnome should focus on C/C++ > with Vala and Python as supporting languages. Yeah, such a fat and ugly pig that great software like VOIP app Jitsi (www.jitsi.org) uses it, Vuze P2P uses it, Jdownloader uses it, like Art of Illusion 3D renderer and Sweet Home 3D uses it http://www.sweethome3d.com/index.jsp With OpenJDK7 being GPL and ubiquitous on Linux distros, it's hard to make a case for NOT using it, specially when non-Java languages can use it (Jython, JRuby, xRuby, NetRexx, Jabaco...). If you speak out of ignorance and prejudice, it can also be said that C/C++ brought us pigs like KDE 4.x which can use up to 500 MB of ram. Some examples of great Java based cross platform apps: Jitsi VOIP - messaging - videoconference http://www.jitsi.org Art of Illusion 3D renderer http://aoi.sourceforge.net/ Bloom (pic uploader to Farcebook) http://antaki.ca/bloom/ Vuze BitTorrent P2P http://www.vuze.com JDownloader http://www.jdownloader.org/ JDiskReport http://ho.io/jdiskreport muCommander file manager / SSH file copy http://ho.io/mu-commander JEdit programmers' editor http://www.jedit.org/ NetBeans IDE http://www.netbeans.org OmegaT, translation tool http://www.omegat.org/en/download_selector/lin_nojre.php Earth3D http://venus.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~gunia/webstart/earth3d_dev.jnlp (earth3d.org) Freemind Mind Mapping software http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Frinika - GPL music sequencer http://frinika.appspot.com/ JShot screenshot tool - uploading http://jshot.info/jshot/webstart/jshot.jnlp PowerFolder (cloud storage) http://download.powerfolder.com/pro/webstart/PowerFolder.jnlp PetrusBlogger (multi-blog client) http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/News-Newsgroups-Blog-Tools/Petrus-Blogger.shtml DVB demux tool http://sourceforge.net/projects/project-x/ UpTheSync - cloud file syncing http://upthesync.sourceforge.net/ Burp - Web security testing http://portswigger.net/burp/ jHome - Home Automation http://www.eletronlivre.com.br/jhome/ ...And these are the ones just off the top off my head Lots of " stupid " programmers writing cross-platform big fat ugly Java code, it seems!. ;-P FC -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
