Once, long ago--actually, on Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 03:21:09PM +0200--Reindl Harald (h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > the whole "secure boot" idea is crap Hmm...no, it's not. It's crap *as implemented*. Want a not-crap implementation? o Firmware ships with a non-MS form of UEFI. o You install your OS-of-choice; at this point in time, you know it's clean & safe. o Run a utility to generate a key that gets installed in the UEFI firmware. Preferably, this utility would know or be told what components in the OS, drivers, etc. should be considered when generating the key. o Disable the UEFI update. Ideally, this would be an actual hardware switch--something that CAN'T be suborned in software or firmware. o Whenever you update your OS, drivers, or other components that are considered by the UEFI boot, turn off the switch and re-run the keygen utility. >From this point on, you're running "blessed" software, so Bad Guys(TM) will be stopped as for the current UEFI. But the entire dance is in *your* control, not any vendor. But, of course, MS couldn't tolerate this. -- Dave Ihnat dihnat@xxxxxxxxxx -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org