> The goal is that the typical user would never actually interact with > grub (grub2) or systemctl from the command line at all. Grub > manipulations occurring when kernels are installed or removed, systemctl > commands can be handled via 'system-config'services' Thats one of the diseases Fedora seems to be suffering from. The 'Oh but it doesn't matter about the lower levels' problem. F15 and F16 screw up upgrades horribly and leave services disabled they shouldn't. Thats a fail. It also totally contradicts the defence of "oh but you never have to deal with it" Similarly with grub2. The complete failure of the upgrade tools and installer to get the job done right combined with the half baked and over convoluted script mess makes it a nightmare for users to fix. Low levels do matter. Being able to fix stuff does matter. Things *do* go wrong. Alan -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
