On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/27/2011 08:40 PM, Tim wrote: > > Joe Zeff: > >>> No it doesn't. Sometimes it turns out that an idea that sounded good > >>> Just Doesn't Work. > > > > Rahul Sundaram: > >> People who do the work decide what works or doesn't work. This isn't a > >> democracy. > > > > No. They can decide what they want to do. But what works, or doesn't > > work, is born out by what actually works or not. Not what you want. > > You are missing the point. What works or not is pretty subjective and as > long as people are willing to do the work and use it, it is useful for > them. Noone else has any control over that. Actually, I have to disagree with you on that. What works or not is *partially* subjective, especially when it comes to user experience. There are some things that just don't work, period. Users are willing to put up with lack of or poor function - look at Windows or text messaging on phone keypads for examples - if, on balance, the perceived benefits of getting something done outweigh the crappy way in which they have to do it. Users will also invent workarounds as necessary to get done what they need. Again, witness all of the abbreviations that came out of text messaging on phone keypads. When developers are not willing to work on fixing these shortcomings and users no longer are willing to put up with using them (or other developers provide a better way) users change systems. So, in the end, users - and not developers - have the control because they will vote with their feet if things get bad enough. I'd submit we're pretty durn' close to that with Gnome 3.X right now... Chris -- ================================== "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -- Former President Bill Clinton -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines