> On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 11:09 -0500, Matt Rose wrote: >> Ever since I switched back to Fedora from >> Ubuntu, I hate the fact that I have to tweak my DE to hell and back >> before >> I can use it efficiently after every upgrade, I have to install a >> decent >> font, I have to go into gconf-editor to configure focus-follows-mouse, >> and >> any number of annoying manual steps just to get a desktop that rivals >> what >> Ubuntu gives me out of the box. > > Once again we see issues with Gnome 3 being laid at Fedora's door. I > haven't used Gnome since the days of KDE 2 (yes 2, not even 3), so all > this is somewhat of a sideshow as far as I'm concerned. No doubt it's a > deep and important issue for Gnome users, but it's *not* a problem with > Fedora as such. Couple of thoughts. The customizations I do, very little of it has to do with Gnome3 specifically. In fact, only the focus follows mouse issue. Most of it has to do with the terrible, terrible font rendering, the lack of support for most modern media formats, and other annoyances. I've had to do these tweaks for far longer than Gnome3 was around. In fact, one of the reasons I came back to Fedora was for gnome3, as I did use Ubuntu up until 10.10, but I didn't want to move to Unity. If you guys think Gnome3 is bad... As well, KDE's track record on this is not exactly stellar. KDE4 was basically unusable up until 4.3 or so. Gnome3 is going through some growing pains right now, but that's to be expected. Fact is, no matter what DE you use, the out of the box experience on Fedora is terrible. Yes, you can fiddle with this or that config file, and install this or that 3rd party package to fix it, but out of the box, Fedora is pretty much unusable as a desktop environment for any purpose. By trade, I'm a linux Systems Engineer, and I work on my own customized Linux distro based on CentOS (hence my interest in Fedora), and I find this stuff hard, and a flat-out pain in the ass, especially when competition like Ubuntu is out there, and demonstrates plainly that the out-of-box experience can be pleasant. Fedora is not going to win any converts this way. Matt > > poc > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
