On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 04:47:49 +0200, gilpel@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > If there's anybody here who's in charge of Fedora's mailing lists, I must > say that the way you're dealing with susbscribers seems dishonest. > > When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears > nowhere, just my email address. It seems the user name is just a way to > make you believe that your email won't be divulged. Since I don't sleep > well at all these days, I'm quite often absent-minded. So, I went back to > Fedora's subscription interface in Firefox and, to my surprise, saw that > Firefox remembered exactly what I had entered, my user name: LuckyDay. > Well, fortunately, the support here is the best I've ever seen on any > Linux group. Otherwise, I might not have considered the day so lucky :) > > I don't know what's the reason for this, but it doesn't seem like a > professional attitude to me. This is a standard mailman interface. The names are visible to the people who manage the list. > Certainly, nowhere do you see in plain english that your email address > will be made public. Being used to dealing with forums, I made sure to use If you send email to a public email list, then it's public. People do things to try to keep the email from some of the automated address harvestors, but if it's a big enough list it will be worthwhile for spammers to subscribe and harvest addresses. > What would make sense, is asking people to subscribe from an address that > correspond to an ISP. Even people who have their own mail server have a > few addresses at their ISP. And even those servers could be accepted as I don't. They provide me with a real network connection and nothing else. That's the way I like it. > they relate to the one from their ISP. Establishing a domain name for > spamming is not very efficient either. > > I'm not much of a techie, you already know that, but it seems to me that > the only way to prevent spamming is to prevent people from registering > from email service providers such as Google, Yahoo... or Altern, where it > takes only minutes to register, then bye-bye. > > But this is now permitted and there is...as far as I can see, not that > much spam. So, once again, why all those shenanigans? I think you are under the mistaken impression that asking for a name is an antispam feature. It's not. It is to help out people managing lists. I doubt Fedora uses this feature at all, but it is useful to some people who use mailman. > I had my fair share of trial and error these days. So, what should be my > settings for pop and smtp, if those are the protocols used? If I use > gilpel (at) altern org as my username and add my password, will Red Hat > servers really see no diffrence whether I'm posting from Altern or my > provider? Will emails be sent to Altern to check if I'm still using it as > my email service provider? mailman uses the envelope sender address to determine if you are subscribed or not. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
