On 03/23/2015 11:26 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 01:18:46PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote: >> I share these concerns. Initially, I was interpreting the intent of >> the Outreach Steering Committee to be collaboration on all user >> facing efforts, with representation from any interested groups, SIGs, >> or individuals. This seems like a great idea; I'm concerned that many >> community members work diligently in their own space but may not >> track efforts in other areas, or give special attention to >> communicating their own efforts with the larger community. Efforts >> directed towards improving internal cooperation would make >> outward-facing efforts more effective and develop a stronger sense of >> community. > I think that sums up my idea for it fairly nicely, really. What might > we do to bring what's being talked about in line with that? (Is it just > that the immediate concerns of ambassadors are most tangible and > therefore overwhelm higher-level collaboration?) > My concern at this point is that we have a proposed solution, and now we're at the point of looking for problems to justify implementing that solution. I propose we take another perspective, start with the problems that need to be solved, and look for the most appropriate solution (which may or may not be a leadership body.) For example, the specific concern from the meeting today was Ambassadors' difficulty in getting deliverables from Marketing. More broadly, we can state that it is difficult to know what a given team has to offer other teams, and how one would go about requesting them. To address this, someone could go around creating trac tickets and mailing list threads to request this from stakeholding teams. A marketing trac ticket could say "Marketing, please create a wiki page that explains what kind of flyers and brochures and such you are willing to produce, what timeframe and information you would need to fulfill the request, and ensure you have an internal process for servicing these requests". If that process needs to be formalized and tracked, it could be done under the aegis of the Council by an appointed objective lead, an approach already covered under the Council charter. If there are other problems to solve, besides getting deliverables from Marketing, let's start listing them out. -- -- Pete _______________________________________________ outreach mailing list outreach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/outreach