Re: Disttags are nice, save the disttags

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On 05/06/07, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You only solve at the point in which you do the rebuild.  Doing such rebuilds
really invalidates any QA done on the binaries up to that point, so you'd
need to do it early, but then more changes happen throughout the release so
you can't really feel warm and fuzzy at the end of the release that your
rebuilds at the beginning of the release are still valid anymore.  So unless
we do rebuilds again at the end and introduce a long period of testing where
no other builds but bugfixes (but even that changes things!!) are accepted
you don't get your desired results.  And then we have 1 or 2 month old builds
in our release and we get trounced in the media for shipping old software,
and people loose interest in fixing the release if we open rawhide during
that re-testing period, and if we don't we get very upset maintainers who
don't have anything to do...

Seriously the only time rebuilds are really worth it is when you're rebuilding
for a specific reason such as a gcc or rpm change.  Then you ensure what
you're rebuilding for is already in the buildroot, and you build things that
A) make use of it, and B) haven't already been built.  And you do these
things before the Feature freeze.

Yep, I entirely see your point. It could also be summarized as "Fedora
QA is binary RPM focussed". QA of binaries takes precedent over
reproducibility of packages and the distribution, and changing that
would be a fundamental change to the distribution. Is that more or
less right ?

[I'm not trying to be a jerk, but am trying to understand the details
- one of us has years of experience as a release manager, and one of
us doesn't :)]

J.

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