Enrico Scholz wrote:
Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
"I do not see a problem with this when consecutive uids are used."
This is what I've been talking about, just because you don't see it
doesn't mean its not there.
Just because you don't see the Flying Spaghetti Monster it doesn't mean
its not there...
Please, stop the FUD about problems without naming them!
Please see the archives of this thread, not just my comments but others
as well. Ignoring the shortcomings of fedora-usermgmt won't make it go
away.
1) Doesn't work in any other distro other than fedora
2) Only solves a small problem for a few packages since not all packages
use it
3) Its proprietary.
4) Very few people use it
5) Its been controversial ever since its inception (otherwise it'd be
mandatory by now)
6) Most sysadmins solve this problem on their own using well defined,
tested tools
7) Its author doesn't seem to want to send it upstream to shadow-utils
for reasons unknown
8) It hasn't gained any other foothold besides fedora
9) Its use isn't easy. Just in the last two days this thread and the
EPEL thread have found people using it incorrectly or having it create
UID's in an unpredictable fashion, and these are smart people.
Your fix is causing others a headache, admitting it is the first step
to recovery. Has any progress been made on making fedora usermgmt
part of the shadow-utils?
Adding an '--hint <uid>' option to user/groupadd and giving this to a
configurable 'translate-id' script might be possible. But there is so
much resistance against fedora-usermgmt that I do not have desire to
fight this battle outside of Fedora.
Why should we have to do extra work to get around your hack that seems
to work well for you and 5 other fedora users?
Have you contacted the packager?
about what?
About making this transparent to us. I actually suggested a way for all
parties involved to be happy but for some reason you're ignoring it.
Get this integrated into shadow-utils, otherwise its a hack specific to
fedora. This isn't that hard, if this was a patch for useradd all of
our complaints go away because it would just work then. I've even CC'd
him on it so you don't have to, your welcome.
-Mike
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