I don't want to seem to ignore your other perfectly valid arguments, especially since one of them precisely duplicates an argument made in my original message. I just think this needs to be treated separately: >>>>> "JD" == John Dennis <jdennis@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: JD> -1 for the Bureaucrats in People's Central Packaging Committee and JD> their police who seek to banish me to the gulag for crimes against JD> spec files by virtue of improper thinking ;-) So there's an emoticon there, but an emoticon isn't enough to hide the fact that there's an attitude here which really needs to be dealt with. So I'll make it plain: I am on the packaging committee. Why on Earth would I have posted my message if I had no interest in gaining input from the people on various sides of the issue? The committee has created no applicable rules here except for the absolute prohibition against writing to $RPM_SOURCE_DIR. I am attempting to gather information so that the committee can consider the issue. It would behoove those who have interest in this to provide balanced information and constructive discussion (as I will note that you did in your message before that bit at the end) instead of inflammatory rhetoric, because the rhetoric tends to drown out the useful bits. Please work with us instead of denigrating us. Don't validate the fears many community members have of Red Hat employees turning their noses up at community-developed guidelines. - J< -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly