On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 08:30 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 21:09 +0530, Rahul wrote: > >> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >>>>> To me, dropping OpenMotif would be real regression. > >>>>> > >>>> Clear cut violation of guidelines. Openmotif is proprietary software. > >>> well openmotif is a "it's free for open source" license... so to call it > >>> proprietary... is not entirely fair either. > > ACK > > > >> Ok my wording might not have been entirely appropriate but it doesnt > >> meet the packaging guidelines for either Free software > >> (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motif.html) or open source software > >> (http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/faq.html) and should be removed from > >> the distribution. > > Yes, OpenMotif is not a copyright nor a legal issue. It's a religious > > one. It's licence doesn't meet the some people's "confession/belief" > > > > I completely do not understand (nor share) your point of view here. > Fedora has always been about building a distro which is 100.1 % free (as > in freedom) and thus allows other to pick it up and do anything with it > they like including selling it (modified or not) building proprietary > stuff on top of it etc. > To quote the opengroups motif faq (linked above) on this: > "Open Motif source code and binaries can be distributed royalty free > under The Open Group Public License as long as the operating system upon > which Open Motif is running meets the OSI's Open Source Definition" 1. Fedora is based on the OSI-definition itself => Non-issue 2. royalty-free == licence fees ... RH business objective. Non-issue to Fedora itself. 3. If this was an issue to the opengroup, it's them who would have to sue RH (Who shipped OpenMotif as part of their $$$$ commercial linuxes) They have not done so for many years. > Now royalty free does not sound very free software / oss to me. Yes, it's "religion". They are following a different OpenSource model/religion than Fedora/RH. > If you disagree feel free to submit it to that other repo, I might > even help out by reviewing it. Well, things aren't as simple as you think. First of all a lesstif package must not replace OpenMotif, but be designed to be installed in parallel to OpenMotif. Second, I would have to rebuild several packages from Core and from Extras. Ralf -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly