Hello all, I was reluctant to continue this conversation since it has run it's course I think. However, there are a couple of points I think need to be clarified in the conversation. First, let's talk about what was proposed, by who, and it's purpose. What is being proposed is a guide for Editorial Board members of the Fedora Magazine to include a section on bias in words used in articles and specifically how to edit such articles. This was proposed by a senior member of the Editorial Board who is no stranger in the community. The purpose is for the Editorial Board to be more proactive in promoting inclusive non-biased conversations within the Fedora Community, by keeping articles non- biased. Second I want to point out the English language is an ever evolving language. Eventually, the use of allow/deny lists will likely be the norm, but not because Fedora Magazine Editorial Board members decided to make a guide, but because people will adopt them through daily use, much like "blacklist/whitelist" are the norm today. Our community is open, our minds should be too. Stephen On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 16:32 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > Several comments on yesterday's fail2ban article[1], as well as some > internal Red Hat mailing list traffic, raised concern with the use of > the word "blacklist". While the etymology of the term is not racist, > there are reasonable arguments to be made that it can contribute to > unconscious bias. Its meaning is also less obvious than alternatives > like "block list". > > So there are two questions here: > > 1. Should we discourage the use of whitelist and blacklist in Fedora > Magazine in favor of alternatives like "allow list" and "block > list"/"deny list"? > > 2. Should we start developing a style guide that addresses this and > other issues (e.g. the style of projects like "NetworkManager" (not > "Network Manager") and other things both malign and benign (like > using > the words "simple" or "just") that a style guide normally covers)? > > I am in favor of both of the above. > > For anyone who is interested, I learned today that the latest update > to the codespell package (currently in testing[2]) can flag some of > these issues: > codespell --builtin clear,rare,usage <filename> > > [1] > https://fedoramagazine.org/protect-your-system-with-fail2ban-and-firewalld-blacklists/ > [2] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-12bd755a7c > > -- > Ben Cotton > He / Him / His > Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream > Red Hat > TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis > _______________________________________________ > Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to > magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
