I tend to agree with GLB here as well. One addendum... I think for a publication like ours -- i.e. not a scholarly or important news source in the sense of journalism -- it's OK to correct slight errors in quotations, as long as it's clear what the author's meaning was. For instance, fixing a verb tense or pronoun agreement, the proper name of a thing, or something that might have been caused by the author's use of English as a second language. Those minor corrections don't change the sense of what the speaker wanted to convey. Paul On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:21 PM Gregory Lee Bartholomew < gregory.lee.bartholomew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > FWIW, I think I agree more with Ben's "take" that it should be avoided > because > it might be seen as passive-aggressive. I suspect part of the point of sic > is to > inform readers that what is written isn't proper English so that no one > will be > tempted to imitate it elsewhere in their own speech or writing. That is > probably > more of a concern for a bigger news publication than it is for our small > world. > I also think trying to reenforce proper grammar in the modern era of > acronyms > like "LOL" and "FWIW" is probably a lost cause anyway. > > Also, I think being in quotations is sufficient to indicate that what is > written > is not the work of the editor/writer. So sic is a bit redundant and > unnecessary > in that sense. > > On Tue, 2020-02-18 at 11:47 -0500, Stephen Snow wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > To add my 2c worth, I don't particularily mind it's (sic) use when it > > is quoting verbatim, and especially if Editors need to apply a > > correction to the article. I do agree with Ben on the concern of > > overuse. > > > > Stephen > > > > On Tue, 2020-02-18 at 11:06 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:35 AM Gregory Lee Bartholomew < > > > gregory.lee.bartholomew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Ben. I'm just looking for editing guidelines. I'll be sure > > > > to avoid > > > > using > > > > sic in articles that I edit for the magazine. > > > > > > > > > > If you think it's appropriate, then by all means use it. It might be > > > good > > > for us to develop some consistent editorial practice for it. I'm not > > > going > > > to object if we decide that liberal usage is best. > > > > > > My take, and I welcome disagreement, is that we should use it when > > > quotes > > > are significantly difficult to understand (counterpoint: we should > > > just not > > > use those quotes instead) or when they contain factual inaccuracies > > > (and > > > again, we should probably avoid those quotes or provide better > > > context for > > > them). > > > > > > I understand the desire to accurately represent quotes while also > > > indicating to the reader that we are competent editors. If we were a > > > news > > > publication, then I'd be more inclined to use direct quotes with sic. > > > But > > > we're a volunteer magazine, and although we strive for (and IMO > > > achieve) a > > > respectable level of professionalism, our standards are naturally > > > going to > > > be different. > > > > > > All of this is to say that I have reasons why I think we shouldn't > > > use it, > > > but I don't want to discourage discussion of the topic. This is a > > > collaborative effort, and everyone is welcome to tell me (and anyone > > > else) > > > when they disagree. > > > > > > -- > > > Ben Cotton > > > He / Him / His > > > Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream > > > Red Hat > > > TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
