On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 8:59 PM Lyes Saadi <ml@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello! > > I'm kinda reviving a discussion from the dead, but it's been since > January and pyfiglet is still blocked with its review despite new > versions of the package being licensing-trouble free as they only > include the fonts which are Open Source and safe to include thanks to > the great amount of work of upstream. And so, we'd like to go ahead with > this to finally include pyfiglet into Fedora. > > So, without focusing on the legal argument, I wanted to ask here what > was the procedure for going back with a dead review due to legal issues. > Can I for example just "remove" the FE-LEGAL tag or do I need some sort > of re-review/approval from legal? If I'm not mistaken I have just removed the FE-Legal block. Richard > Le 19/01/2022 à 14:35, Lyes Saadi a écrit : > > Hi! > > > > Le 19/01/2022 à 04:16, Jilayne Lovejoy a écrit : > >> Hi Lyes! > >> > >> On 1/14/22 5:19 PM, Lyes Saadi wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello! And thank you for your answer! > >>> > >> well, I'm not sure I really have an answer - still trying to make > >> sure I understand the question! > >> > >> [...] > >> >> We'd love to have all the fonts included if our legal argument is > >>> solid enough, though, since there is no precedent in US courts (as > >>> far as we know, we are no lawyers), I can understand why it is an > >>> issue for the Fedora Project. But, yes, all the fonts which are now > >>> included are in the « good » license list. > >>> > >> > >> So the specific ask for Fedora now is - can we include the fonts in > >> the fonts-contrib/ directory as well, instead of only the fonts in the > >> fonts-standard/ directory - is that right? > > > > Yes, that's what we're trying to do. (Also, removing the FE-LEGAL tag > > from the review request for now, since only fonts-standard is included > > anyway. I'm not sure that I'm allowed to do that directly.) > > > >> I'm not really clear on what the licensing is for the font in the > >> fonts-contrib/ directory, as the few fonts I opened simply don't have > >> any explicit license info. Do you know if that is the case (and > >> therefore the problem in terms of redistribution in Fedora)? > > > > Yes, these files are proprietary and/or have an unknown origin. If we > > follow the licensing guidelines for normal (Vector) fonts, it would be > > impossible to redistribute them in Fedora. > > > > But, our argument is that all these files should be "insufficiently > > creative" to be considered copyrightable in the first place (in the US, > > at least), in the same way that Bitmap fonts are not copyrightable. So, > > it wouldn't matter what their license is, they would just be under > > Public Domain. > > > >> Thanks, > >> Jilayne > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Fedora Code of Conduct: > >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > >> List Archives: > >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > > _______________________________________________ > > legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > _______________________________________________ > legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure _______________________________________________ legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure