Re: FIGlet fonts

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 8:59 PM Lyes Saadi <ml@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm kinda reviving a discussion from the dead, but it's been since
> January and pyfiglet is still blocked with its review despite new
> versions of the package being licensing-trouble free as they only
> include the fonts which are Open Source and safe to include thanks to
> the great amount of work of upstream. And so, we'd like to go ahead with
> this to finally include pyfiglet into Fedora.
>
> So, without focusing on the legal argument, I wanted to ask here what
> was the procedure for going back with a dead review due to legal issues.
> Can I for example just "remove" the FE-LEGAL tag or do I need some sort
> of re-review/approval from legal?

If I'm not mistaken I have just removed the FE-Legal block.

Richard

> Le 19/01/2022 à 14:35, Lyes Saadi a écrit :
> > Hi!
> >
> > Le 19/01/2022 à 04:16, Jilayne Lovejoy a écrit :
> >> Hi Lyes!
> >>
> >> On 1/14/22 5:19 PM, Lyes Saadi wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello! And thank you for your answer!
> >>>
> >> well, I'm not sure I really have an answer  - still trying to make
> >> sure I understand the question!
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> >> We'd love to have all the fonts included if our legal argument is
> >>> solid enough, though, since there is no precedent in US courts (as
> >>> far as we know, we are no lawyers), I can understand why it is an
> >>> issue for the Fedora Project. But, yes, all the fonts which are now
> >>> included are in the « good » license list.
> >>>
> >>
> >> So the specific ask for Fedora now is - can we include the fonts in
> >> the fonts-contrib/ directory as well, instead of only the fonts in the
> >> fonts-standard/ directory - is that right?
> >
> > Yes, that's what we're trying to do. (Also, removing the FE-LEGAL tag
> > from the review request for now, since only fonts-standard is included
> > anyway. I'm not sure that I'm allowed to do that directly.)
> >
> >> I'm not really clear on what the licensing is for the font in the
> >> fonts-contrib/ directory, as the few fonts I opened simply don't have
> >> any explicit license info. Do you know if that is the case (and
> >> therefore the problem in terms of redistribution in Fedora)?
> >
> > Yes, these files are proprietary and/or have an unknown origin. If we
> > follow the licensing guidelines for normal (Vector) fonts, it would be
> > impossible to redistribute them in Fedora.
> >
> > But, our argument is that all these files should be "insufficiently
> > creative" to be considered copyrightable in the first place (in the US,
> > at least), in the same way that Bitmap fonts are not copyrightable. So,
> > it wouldn't matter what their license is, they would just be under
> > Public Domain.
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jilayne
> >>
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