Re: good/bad v. approved/not-approved

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On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 12:44 PM Richard Fontana <rfontana@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I see the problem with "approved"/"not-approved" as being that it
> sounds relatively  unpleasantly "corporate" compared to "good"/"not
> good" which have an attractive, vaguely humorous, vaguely
> countercultural quality in keeping with some aspects of Fedora's
> roots. But the problem with "good"/"not good" is precisely around
> value judgments. Most of these "good" licenses are not really that
> good at all -- they are tolerable but in some cases barely acceptable.
> They meet minimum standards -- sometimes questionably so. I'm not
> suggesting those standards need to be made stricter; they're actually
> already pretty strict. But I wouldn't want to give the message that we
> actually think most (if not all) of these licenses are "good" in the
> normal English language sense of "good".
>
> So on balance I'd support "approved" or "acceptable" over "good".

When I evaluate a project for packaging in Fedora, what I want to know
is: "Is this project released under a license that permits packaging
it for Fedora?"  The approved/not-approved language speaks to that.
That's the only value judgment I need to make, so with my packager hat
on, I am okay with moving away from good/bad.

Neal's point about developers is an interesting one.  Thinking about
this with my developer hat on, my task is to select a license that
gives me the protections I want, and gives others the right to do with
it what I want them to do with it.  Let's say that I have selected a
candidate license, and that I want Linux distributions to redistribute
my software.  My question now is, "Do the Linux distributions I care
about accept this license?"  Approved/not-approved clearly answers
that question.  Good/bad sort of answers that question, but less
clearly in my mind.

Sorry Neal, but I don't see how approved/not-approved loses anything
over good/bad.  Can you clarify what you think would be lost?
-- 
Jerry James
http://www.jamezone.org/
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