On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 12:44 PM Richard Fontana <rfontana@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I see the problem with "approved"/"not-approved" as being that it > sounds relatively unpleasantly "corporate" compared to "good"/"not > good" which have an attractive, vaguely humorous, vaguely > countercultural quality in keeping with some aspects of Fedora's > roots. But the problem with "good"/"not good" is precisely around > value judgments. Most of these "good" licenses are not really that > good at all -- they are tolerable but in some cases barely acceptable. > They meet minimum standards -- sometimes questionably so. I'm not > suggesting those standards need to be made stricter; they're actually > already pretty strict. But I wouldn't want to give the message that we > actually think most (if not all) of these licenses are "good" in the > normal English language sense of "good". > > So on balance I'd support "approved" or "acceptable" over "good". When I evaluate a project for packaging in Fedora, what I want to know is: "Is this project released under a license that permits packaging it for Fedora?" The approved/not-approved language speaks to that. That's the only value judgment I need to make, so with my packager hat on, I am okay with moving away from good/bad. Neal's point about developers is an interesting one. Thinking about this with my developer hat on, my task is to select a license that gives me the protections I want, and gives others the right to do with it what I want them to do with it. Let's say that I have selected a candidate license, and that I want Linux distributions to redistribute my software. My question now is, "Do the Linux distributions I care about accept this license?" Approved/not-approved clearly answers that question. Good/bad sort of answers that question, but less clearly in my mind. Sorry Neal, but I don't see how approved/not-approved loses anything over good/bad. Can you clarify what you think would be lost? -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ _______________________________________________ legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure