On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 12:27:56PM -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 12:09 PM Jilayne Lovejoy <jlovejoy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/4/21 1:46 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 07:44:43AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> [see https://pagure.io/fedora-web/websites/issue/215 for the original issue] > > >> > > >> I hope that this is the right venue for this question/review request: > > >> https://getfedora.org/ currently says > > >>> Fedora is always free for anyone to use, modify, and distribute. > > >>> It is built and used by people across the globe who work together as a community. > > >> There is a pull request open to amend the text to include: > > >> > > >> <small>{% trans trimmed %}It is a compilation of software packages, > > >> each under its own license. Images that can be downloaded here are > > >> available under the combination of licenses of the constituent > > >> software packages and the license of the Fedora project itself. > > >> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Licenses/LicenseAgreement#License";>View License</a>{% endtrans %}</small> > > > This^ is https://pagure.io/fedora-web/websites/pull-request/218#request_diff > > looking at the PR and the website page itself - do I understand > > correctly that this is essentially adding a line to the blurb at the > > last section (before the footer banner) of this page - > > https://getfedora.org/ - next to the gray/white globe graphic? > > > > Just trying to visualize the end result. > > I think so. Seems to be associated with this issue: > https://pagure.io/fedora-web/websites/issue/215 > > I'm not sure why it's that important to say this I'll try to provide a broader context to answer why I think it's important. The first aspect is legal and formal: we provide software and assets for download that are copyrighted by many many different authors, and those people make those items available under some specific licenses. Those licenses are intended to allow free reuse, but they are not free-for-all "public domain" licenses. Thus to avoid misrepresenting the permissions for our deliverables, we should provide some blurb that unambiguously links to a formal description that this is a collective work and that individual licenses need to be followed and where they can be found. The second aspect is (I believe) a big missed marketing opportunity: not everyone who gets to our download page "lives and breathes" open source, and even if something is "free to download", for many people this is not immediately what exactly this means. So I think we should provide a blurb that emphasizes freedom, but also allows people to dig deeper. (I think that somebody who stumbles upon getfedora.o should be able to learn at least a bit what open source is and I'd consider this part of the outreach to the wider community.) I think the current text on the website does a decent job, but the missing part is a hyperlink to further documents that would explain this in an accessible way. > but I guess it's > mostly worded okay, except that "the license of the Fedora project > itself" should be reworded since there is no license of the Fedora > project itself (in my view, anyway). There is a collective work > license -- the MIT license -- but I don't see that much value in > placing any emphasis on that. But if that is going to be referred to, > it should be "the license of the Fedora distribution itself", not the > more ambiguous "the license of the Fedora project itself". The text in the PR now is: <small>{% trans trimmed %}It is a compilation of software packages, each under its own license. Images that can be downloaded here are available under the combination of licenses of the constituent software packages and the license of the Fedora Linux distribution itself. <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Licenses/LicenseAgreement#License";>View License</a>{% endtrans %}</small> Zbyszek _______________________________________________ legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
