[Fedora-legal-list] Re: The FPCA’s “Moral Rights Clause Waiver” should be updated for CC BY-SA 4.0

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:51 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:05 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:10:41PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > > On the topic of FPCA improvements, it would probably make sense (if
> > > > the FPCA is retained) to replace the MIT license as the default code
> > > > license with MIT No Attribution, aka MIT-0, recently approved by the
> > > > OSI as an open source license:
> > > > https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT-0
> > > > (which would also enable a minor simplification of the FPCA text).
> > > >
> > >
> > > I would personally prefer we didn't. That has the knock-on effect of
> > > making it possible for RHEL folks to not include Fedora changelogs
> > > when they fork Fedora for RHEL, since the RPM changelogs are the only
> > > attribution we actually *have* in the distribution. And I've
> > > personally experienced very positive reinforcement for contributing to
> > > Fedora and CentOS Stream by pointing to public attribution via changelogs.
> >
> >
> > I agree with Neal here as a deep gut reaction. Recognition is important,
> > even if it is buried pretty deeply from endusers.
> >
> > That said, uh, we trim changelogs, so if we're arguing that that's the
> > attribution part, we have some digging through git history to do to repair
> > that.
> >
>
> Red Hat is going to have to fix *a lot* of the process around
> Fedora->RHEL/CentOS if we're going to rely on Git history for
> attribution. Especially if rpmautospec gets broader adoption. I was
> personally pretty upset about how the c9s branches were forked from
> Fedora Linux 34, where all the Fedora history was *gone*. I know that
> it's still there in the internal RHEL Dist-Git, but the fact they

You don't know that, and it's actually not there.

This is what the import commits look like:

commit eb6f429d3f0c2f41aa5bb7f8e5153668aa812553
Author: XXXX XXXXXX <XXXXXX@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date:   Fri Oct 23 08:45:59 2020 -0700

    RHEL 9.0.0 bootstrap

    The content of this branch was automatically imported from Fedora ELN
    with the following as its source:
    https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc#90ca20fd0234925743db5e1e231b73b4a38749a9

then later

commit df9ce2ff57e675edea493144401a1e1c9ed0f2b5
Author: DistroBaker <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date:   Tue Dec 15 10:59:21 2020 +0000

    Merged update from upstream sources

    This is an automated DistroBaker update from upstream sources.
    If you do not know what this is about or would like to opt out,
    contact the XXXX team.

    Source: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc.git#525dee4c87180db08e1776a
d3cb0e66a9b38e81f


Please don't fall into the trap of believing your assumptions are reality :)

josh
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