Re: ASL 2.0 with exceptions

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On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:21 AM Zdenek Dohnal <zdohnal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> thank you for all the answers!
>
> There was long-term issue (due Apple legal department) about the
> mentioned license change in CUPS and llvm license was an example how the
> acceptable license should look like.
>
> After two years NOTICE file was accepted by Apple legal and put in CUPS
> project as an exception for ASL 2.0 to prevent future licensing problems.
>
> CUPS project lead at that time and the person who did license change,
> Mike Sweet, left Apple in the meantime and now he is an author of
> LPrint, which I try to package and he chose the license which CUPS has
> to prevent any license issues, because LPrint is based on parts of
> previous CUPS code.
>
> CUPS project in Apple now has a new lead, who is unfortunately
> unresponsive at the present, so in my opinion changing/updating license
> within CUPS is not possible, meaning updating lprint license will not
> happen unless CUPS exception changes.
>
> Then, would it be possible to have:
>
> 'Apache-2.0 WITH CUPS-exception'
>
> or
>
> 'ASL 2.0 with exceptions'
>
> as a license? If it woulf be, what can I do to have an option to use them?

If I understand correctly, there is no current official SPDX exception
for the CUPS exception. There might be some value in getting it added,
but I doubt I myself would find the time to do so in the shorter term.
:)

Anyway, as for Fedora, I think the easiest thing to do here in the
short term is to just use "ASL 2.0" and ignore the exception. I'm not
sure I see any major value in having the license tag signal the
presence of a license exception, in contrast to cases involving
licenses in the GPL family.

Richard






>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Zdenek
>
> On 8/5/20 7:23 PM, Richard Fontana wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 1:15 PM Bryan Sutula <bsutula@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> (replied earlier but it was moderated...sorry if a duplicate arrives)
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 14:12 +0200, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> >>> I'm trying to package lprint https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint
> >>> which has Apache Software License 2.0 with exceptions for GPLv2 and
> >>> LGPLv2.
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> Unfortunately, there isn't a valid short name for 'ASL 2.0 with
> >>> exceptions' at [2] - would it be possible to add the short name into
> >>> the table or should I just use simple 'ASL 2.0'?
> >> The question of what to name this exception aside, the lprint NOTICE
> >> text is only a portion of the LLVM-exception text[3].  The lprint text
> >> is awkward in that the first word of the exception is "Additionally"
> >> but there's no prior exception text in the lprint NOTICE file for the
> >> "Additionally" to refer to.  I wonder whether the author might be
> >> willing to avoid creating yet another custom exception type, by
> >> including the entire LLVM-exception text in the lprint NOTICE file.
> > Ah, I completely missed that. I suppose it shows that the LLVM
> > exception is not really suitable as a general-purpose (not
> > compiler-specific) exception.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> --
> Zdenek Dohnal
> Software Engineer
> Red Hat Czech - Brno TPB-C
>
>


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Red Hat, Inc.
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rfontana@xxxxxxxxxx
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