On Friday 20 October 2006 13:58, Eric Rostetter wrote: > First, my interest doesn't really fit there. It is in testing what is > in updates-testing (which is nothing). If there was something in > updates-testing to test, I would test it and report the results. Its tough to get to updates-testing without the pre-work done. So thats where we need the help right now. > Secondly, I've offered to help many times with other infrastructure issues, > and been turned down over and over. Where? When? You refused to use IRC, you've refused to even try to get a wiki account. > Third, when I've tried to help test packages before updates-testing, I > met with lots of trouble. Someone: "No, you have to do this, this way, not > that way!" Me: "Okay, where's that documented?" Someone: "No where." > Me: "Okay, I'll document that and resubmit" Someone: "No, you still missed > Step X". Me: Okay, where is that documented? Someone: "No where." > Me: "Okay, > I'll document that..." And so on. Eventually of course, my documentation > is no longer good because it is a web page and now it should all be wiki, > and I don't have access to the wiki. By the time I finally get access to > the wiki, I've lost interest. When did you try to get a wiki account? We always welcome more documentation. > Third, I had a big project that took about a year of my life, during which > I could not spend a lot of time of FL work. That is over now, and I could > go back to working on FL again, but I really don't see where I'm needed > now. I've outlined what help we need. > The fact that I only have one FC machine to play with (FC 3 x86_64 now, > could upgrade to FC4 or what ever if needed) doesn't help. I'm willing > to put it towards FL work if you tell me what you need me to do. > > But you can't expect me to do everything any more than I expect you to do > everything. And as long as you keep refusing my offers to help saying > you'll do it yourself, you won't get many unsolicited offers from me, > so you better start soliciting if you want anything. > > >> So, hey, here's an idea: Let's do that! What's the hold up? > > > > Getting software in place. Time. Energy. > > Is there anything I can do to help, or not? Again, I don't know, you'd have to ask Luke and / or the Infrastructure team. > > >> Again, could he use help with this? If so, what kind of help? > >> Even gentle encouragement? Or money? Or coding support? Or > >> documentation support? Or??? > > > > I don't know. Email him. Find out. He's on the fedora infrastructure > > team which has this listed as one of the projects. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure > > > > Don't wait on me to make it happen. > > Is there a particular reason to contact only him instead of the whole > infrastructure team? Mostly because he "owns" the project. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora
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