On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 09:36:15AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > The problem is that we are just beat. Jesse has a kid, a release > cycle, a new knee, and a lot of other stuff on his real job. The other > people who have been doing stuff have also had 'stuff happen', and > temporary schedule changes that have become permanent. Yes. In order to survive the project needs some real support from Red Hat. (Or some other large company who wants to do Red Hat a favor, but that seems even less likely.) Using the "Chasm" marketing model [*], without Legacy, Fedora is only a viable solution for Early Adopters and of dubious value to the second "Pragmatist" group. However, Fedora has been enough of a success that many Pragmatists are indeed using Fedora. This results in large numbers of FC2, FC3, FC4 machines in production beyond their supported lifetime. Pragmatists, by their nature, don't wanna be upgrading all the time. Without Legacy, they're best served by CentOS and kin. That's fine, but it's a loss for Fedora, as they're then less likely to feed back into Extras, etc. And it's also a problem because it results in large numbers of potentially vulnerable machines in the wild. Fedora people repeatedly state that the distribution is great for users beyond the tech-enthusiast Earlier Adopters. But without Legacy, it's really not true. * <http://www.ericsink.com/Act_Your_Age.html> -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list