Hi Don! On 08.02.22 20:24, Donald Zickus wrote: > > It has been awhile since we changed how this mailing list is used. As > folks have noticed, we have increased traffic significantly over the > past couple of years to reflect the activity Red Hat developers are > performing on the Fedora kernel. > > My question to this list is around the thoughts of this activity: > * Is there too much noise? Should we throttle back? > * is the volume ok? Folks have good filters? > * Other suggestions on how we use this list? > > Trying to continue to make this mailing list useful. A mail Prarit Bhargava sent today ( https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/2FCAZG3H3Z65KPEDFXTGPVPIOYRVE322/ ) to this list made me get back to this thread: I'm pretty sure Prarit didn't mean to, but both links in above mail are not accessible to outsiders. :-/ And that made me realize something: kernel-ark and its mails here often make me feel like I'm back in the days of Fedora Core and Extras, where Red Hat does one thing, while the community is doing a different thing and having a hard time influencing the thing done by Red Hat employees (back then that was because either community members had no access or because it required a great deal of effort to learn everything and stay on top of things). I known that this is unfair and inaccurate, as that's not how it is with kernel-ark. But nevertheless it often just feels like that to me. Sorry. Maybe that's just me. Anyway: One thing that IMHO could help a lot to avoid that feeling on my side: get rid of all the redhatisms. E.g. rename the redhat/ directory in kernel-ark to fcrh/ (short for Fedora, CentOS, Red Hat), rpmification/, a combination of those, or something like that -- just not "redhat" (and maybe rename kernel-ark at the same time as well). Same for makes targets. And make everything feel like kernel-ark is primary a Fedora/community thing where CentOS/Red Hat are downstream consumers that are closely involved because everyone benefits from it. Ciao, Thorsten _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
