On 11/11/19 2:37 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
Fedora has an incredibly valuable community and the goal here
is not to subvert it but make sure we can bring the benefits of
that community back to downstream in the kernel. I also look forward
to bringing more downstream kernel developers into Fedora so they can
continue making changes and fixes directly in Fedora.
You probably mean had since if you look at the distribution in whole and
what has been happening increasingly, starting with the project being
aligned to match RHEL 3 products few years back and then someone at
Raleigh taking a concept that work so well on a generic distribution and
apply that to *everything* and started dumping RHEL problems and alpha
products into Fedora in the masses, dusting their hands, patting
themselves on the back, problem solved, the community figures something
out. With the community staring back o_O, saying thanks for dumping that
load of crap onto us, <sigh> let's add it to the pile...
Originally it was the agility of the Fedora distribution, which
reflected the industry direction through the community contribution in
the project, which gave RH that valuable business insight to build upon
and marketing advantage that came thereof but now the fact is, these
changes to the project in whole are bubbling up from RH(EL) not tripling
down from Fedora's community and all those RH changes that started small
as you are proposing/doing have grown into this unmovable monstrosity of
chopped fragmented blob resembling an distribution that is only move by
"if it builds, let's ship it" chants.
People cant get anything done of what needs to be done since it's a
political fight with RH or they end up hitting a wall with conservative
RHEL maintainers since those changes might affect RH(EL) customer base
or add to his or hers RH(EL) maintenance burden. If somehow people get
passed that, through miracles or years of bribery and Cthulhu
sacrifices, they end up getting smacked in the face with two ton
bureaucracy machine and left for dead at the sidewalk, stamped feature
100% complete.
JBG
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