Re: F23 4.3 rebase plan

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On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 04:12:27PM +0000, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 12/15/2015 03:35 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 03:20:06PM +0000, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> >>
> >>On 12/15/2015 02:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 02:33:48PM +0000, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 11/20/2015 04:13 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >>>>4.3.3 has now been release but no sign of it in F23.
> >>>It won't be submitted until January.  We don't want to do a major rebase
> >>>the week before most of us go away on PTO.  There is a COPR that
> >>>contains builds from the stabilization branch in Fedora git for those
> >>>that wish to jump early.
> >>Did not know about that corp repo hence I have to ask...
> >>
> >>Is that the latest stable kernel release ( 4.3.3 ) and will always
> >Not yet.  It will be updated to 4.3.3 (or 4.3.4) at some point this
> >week, but 4.3.3 has a known memory leak.
> >
> >>contain the latest stable release ( for all current Fedora releases
> >It won't always even exist.  It's temporary.
> 
> Perhaps it's better to just build the kernel in koji and have people
> fetch it directly from there, at least I fail to see what overhead
> of creating/maintaining a copr repo for just a single GA release is
> supposed to add to the table.

There are only two ways to do that:

1) Rebase the release branch in git to 4.3 and then build.
2) Build from a stabilization branch with a release target

1 is a no-go because if we aren't committing to the rebase offically, it
makes doing fixes on that branch extremely difficult.

2 can be done (at least to my knowledge there are no checks in koji for
git branches), but having it in koji as a random one-off build is also
strange.

As a random aside, I would much rather decouple kernel release and
Fedora release entirely but our tooling doesn't easily allow it.

> >One could use this COPR to get a stable
> >kernel I guess, but it would involve manual installation if they're
> >already on 4.4-rcX because RPM would view the COPR builds as older.
> 
> Nodebug ( for kernel testing ) or fetch from koji specific built is
> how people are ( and where taught when I was ambassador ) how to get
> these things if they needed a specific build.

Yes, in the past.  COPR didn't exist in the past.  It was created, in
part, to do things just like we're doing now.  It certainly is
different, but I don't see a reason not to use new tools available to
us.

josh
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