:-( Re: F20 Kernel 3.14.x / raid-check and freezes

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sadly both re-opened today, after some hours of
running shutdown and raid-check with 3.14 is a
pain and taht is *for sure* 3.14.x because my
co-developer stayed at the last 3.13 until i
thought it's fine now, had never that problems
and both 3.14.x shutdowns freezed with mdraid

Am 03.06.2014 21:10, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096414
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1092937
> 
> *both* seems to be fixed with 3.14.5-200.fc20.x86_64
> while i am unable to find the relevant change in
> the kernel-upstream-changelog
> 
> would be nice to know that it is fixed for a reason
> and not by random as it came - *maybe* the change
> to "data=ordered" instead "data=writeback" is
> responsible but i don't want to test that since
> there where enough data-damages by that freezes
> 
> however, rebootet my workstation 40 times after the
> update from koji and 4 raid-check runs without any
> freeze on two different machines
> 
> Am 08.05.2014 11:10, schrieb Reindl Harald:
>> Am 02.05.2014 11:09, schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>> Am 01.05.2014 15:06, schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>>> Am 01.05.2014 14:55, schrieb Bruno Wolff III:
>>>>> The bug I reported to upstream is:
>>>>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68061
>>>>>
>>>>> That was for 3.13, so if you were running into a varient of the problem I was seeing, you should have seen it in
>>>>> 3.13. I did not see the problem with 3.14 or 3.15 pre-release kernels. I'm using raid 1 instead of raid 10
>>>>
>>>> different problem class
>>>> you where able to look at cat/proc/mdstat
>>>>
>>>> in my case the machine is just dead and don't react on any
>>>> input including ACPI powerbutton, this morning i saw a frozen
>>>> KDE desktop with high CPU load from the past in monitoring
>>>> widgets, last week it froze while login (after enter username
>>>> and password in KDM the first black screen before build the
>>>> desktop appeared and any operatins stopped)
>>>>
>>>> i will wait some hours for possible feedback here and than
>>>> file a bugreport, sadly there is not much constrcutive i
>>>> can report caused by the complete system freeze and no logs
>>>> or anything after hard power off and boot again
>>>
>>> ok, it's not only raid-check, 15 minutes ago it happened again
>>> freeze number 3 - i fear a bugreport makes not much sense
>>> because "system freezes once or two per week before lunch"
>>> is not that much helpful, most likely that will not hit
>>> only me and get away with a following 3.14.x update
>>>
>>> Apr 21 23:34:54 Installed: kernel-3.14.1-200.fc20.x86_64
>>> Apr 28 20:50:54 Installed: kernel-3.14.2-200.fc20.x86_64
>>
>> 3.14.3-200.fc20.x86_64 and sadly today the same on two
>> machines - the only thing i can say for sure that after
>> whatever happens in the background *any* write to disks
>> hangs forever
>>
>> * woke up -> no music
>> * turn on screen, move the mouse, KDM login screen
>> * try to enter password
>> * see the first asterisk and followed input ignored
>> * move the mousepointer still works
>> * STRG+ALT+F3 -> thank god there is a active root session
>> * type "sync" -> no disk activity, no response
>> * well, power off hard
>> _____________________________________________
>>
>> second machine in the office:
>>
>> * KDM hangs
>> * login on TTY3 by luck possible
>> * dmesg -> only the usual lines about starting raid-check
>>   and delay the two other raid devices
>> * nothing else in dmesg or syslog
>> * also here: any write to disk stalls

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