Hi! Tanks for answering. On 08.09.2013 14:16, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 06.09.2013 20:35, Justin M. Forbes wrote: >> (Final Change Deadline is 2013-11-12 currently). But isn't including and >> testing 3.12-rc soon in F20-pre better than shipping it as update for >> F19 and F20 just a week or two after F20 got released? The latter seems >> likely and then the 3.12 package then gets only tested in updates-testing. > We're really in a tough spot all around with this release. We were in a similar situation in F19 iirc: shipped with 3.9 and 3.10 came out as a update just a few days after the release. Ohh, and F18 even had a zero-day update from 3.6 to 3.7. > Alpha change deadline is passed and there's no way I'm going to do > Alpha on a merge window kernel anyway. Sure. > That means if we switch to a 3.12-rcX > in F20 after Alpha, it negates any and all testing they've done with > Alpha. And if we ship a major update just days after the release of f20 then we negate a lot of testing, too -- but yes, the kernel used on the ISOs will be more robust. > Beta would ship with a mid-rcX release, which we've done > before. However, it's conference season and there's no guarantee 3.12 > final ships in time. Sure -- but the risk is not that big afaics (recently conferences doesn't seems to hurt much anymore) and we have shipped Fedora releases with RC[higher than 5] releases, too. > It's really a tough call. Yeah, understood, but I thought it might be worth the discussion, hence my mails. > [...] CU knurd _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel
