On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Lo! > > On 06.09.2013 20:35, Justin M. Forbes wrote: >> >> * open floor (jforbes, 18:27:26) >> * F20 should remain on 3.11.x until release (jforbes, 18:28:40) > > Just wondering: Is that really wise? The devel cycles for 3.4, 3.5, 3.10 > and 3.11 took 9 weeks; 3.6 up to 3.9 all took round about ten weeks. > Which makes it pretty likely that 3.12 gets released round about on 4. > or the 11. of November. Yes, that's pretty close to the release of F20 phb-crystal-ball.org agrees with you, they say the 8th. > (Final Change Deadline is 2013-11-12 currently). But isn't including and > testing 3.12-rc soon in F20-pre better than shipping it as update for > F19 and F20 just a week or two after F20 got released? The latter seems > likely and then the 3.12 package then gets only tested in updates-testing. We're really in a tough spot all around with this release. Alpha change deadline is passed and there's no way I'm going to do Alpha on a merge window kernel anyway. That means if we switch to a 3.12-rcX in F20 after Alpha, it negates any and all testing they've done with Alpha. Beta would ship with a mid-rcX release, which we've done before. However, it's conference season and there's no guarantee 3.12 final ships in time. It's really a tough call. There's not really a perfect answer here. As usual, we hope and encourage people are testing rawhide. josh _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel
