On 02.07.2007 19:39, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 07:27:17PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > I'd still really like us to ship 2.6.23 for f8, but with the shorter
> > > devel schedule, it's unclear if it's going to land upstream in time.
> > > We've shipped -rc's as GA kernels before, but I always felt 'dirty' for
> > > doing this (especially when we name them incorrectly).
> >
> > I'd say it's unlikely that 2.6.23 is not ready in time for F8. Some
> > statistics that lead to my opinion:
> >
> > 2.6.18 took 94 days to develop
> > 2.6.19 took 71 days
> > 2.6.20 took 66 days
> > 2.6.21 took 80 days
> >
> > 2.6.22 is about 5-7 days away afaics; so it will have had around 73 days
> > to get finished.
> >
> > Final devel freeze for F8 currently is 24 October 2007 -- that's 114
> > days away from now; minus those ~6 days until 2.6.22; that leaves around
> > 108 days for 2.6.23 to mature in time for the F8 freeze. I'd say that
> > should work out when I look at the numbers from recent kernels found above.
> The concerns I have is that summertime is usually a slower period.
> People go to conferences, summits, beaches a lot more, so it could
> drag out a little.
You have a point there -- just look at the numbers from 2.6.18 above
(2.6.17 was 18.06.2006) and one ca see that 2.6.18 took a bit longer.
But anyway:
> But based on your numbers, there is quite a bit
> of room for lag in there, so it's still plausible that we'll make
> it by October.
+1
> > > Shipping it with 'rc3' or whatever in the title seems a little more
> > > honest at least about what we're shipping, and at the same time,
> > > it prevents bad reviewers from writing "Fedora still ships with a 2.6.22
> > > kernel".
> > A proper kernel naming would help there as well (e.g. name the kernels
> > just as upstream -- e.g. 2.6.23-rc[1-7]{,.git[0-9]*). ;-) Yeah, this old
> > topic again that never got solved.
> Indeed. That's what Jarod was proposing to fix no?
/me reads thread again
Yeah, missed that, sorry.
Cu
thl
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