Re: Latest K desktop update causes system hangs

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On Fri, 2017-11-17 at 15:45 +0000, Terry Barnaby wrote:
> Just to answer the OP's question on SSD's.
> 
> Yes, they are non volatile and older spinning HDD's can be replaced with 
> them assuming your system has at least a SATA disk interface. There are 
> different types.
> They do have limited data retention times though, earlier versions could 
> start to lose data after about 4 months if left un-powered. The latest 
> generation is better (> year ?) but figures are hard to come by and 
> depend heavily on temperature. For normal use this is not a problem. 
> There are much faster especially when accessing multiple small files as 
> there effective random seek time is very very fast compared with a 
> mechanical HDD.
> 
> Yes, the latest KDE5/Plasma is horrendously inefficient when it comes 
> boot times due to disk access requirements. With a spinning HDD system 
> boot times are really bad (minutes). A SSD helps this but obviously the 
> issue is really in KDE5/Plasma. With this aspect improved systems would 
> be so much faster better even with SSD's. I suspect the use of the 
> QtQuick (QtSlow!) technology is to blame reading loads of small files 
> describing GUI interface parts rather than just using C++. With a 
> standard fast HDD, a 3 GHz quad core i5 type machine takes much longer 
> to boot than an old 400 MHz single core Pentium Laptop with 256 MBytes 
> of RAM and an slow 2.5inch HDD running an old Fedora with KDE3. The 
> price of bad software "progress".

I installed a 120GB Samsung SSD for / about 3 years ago. My i7-3770
(also 3 years old and the 3770 is not the fastest i7) takes 12 seconds
from boot menu to login screen, and under 20 from login to KDE
(autostarting 6 virtual desktops, a couple of Konsoles, a Qbittorrent
instance and Evolution, but no browser). Even a small SSD is a
worthwhile investment.

poc
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