Am 13.04.2017 um 16:55 schrieb Terry Barnaby:
On 13/04/17 10:35, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.04.2017 um 19:59 schrieb Terry Barnaby:
But SDDM takes about 20s on its own (not in the systemd-analyze) ! And
sddm is a trivial/noddy program that does not do a lot at all, should
take < 100ms. This is followed by a KDE/Plasma startup time of 50s. So
overall the Linux boot is 30s and KDE/Plasma (sddm + user login) is
70s which seems an awful lot to put an image on the background and
display a few icons ( :) ).
but SSDM does not live on it's own
it shares the disk with all other stuff
But, just starting it with "systemctl start sddm" after the system has
booted to console takes a long time. Everything should have settled by
then so it should mainly just be sddm pulling in libraries/files etc.
then your machine has some problem - mine is from 2011 and so not the
latest hot shit
i have rotating disks and none of your problems
As a matter of interest how long does your system take to get to a SDDM
login screen and then how long from this point to a fully logged in state ?
What are its system characteristics?
it's a 6 years old machine others than your s most likely it is running
httpd, 2 mariadb instacnes, named, openvpn-clienbt, openvpn-server,
dbmail, postfix, dovecot as proxy and a lot of other stuff all over the
years while it was upgraded with yum/dnf from 2011 to F25 over the years
[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ systemctl list-units | grep service
accounts-daemon.service
loaded active running
Accounts Service
alsa-state.service
loaded active running Manage
Sound Card State (restore and store)
apcupsd.service
loaded active running APC UPS
Power Control Daemon for Linux
avahi-daemon.service
loaded active running Avahi
mDNS/DNS-SD Stack
bandwidth.service
loaded active exited
Traffic-Shaping
crond.service
loaded active running Command
Scheduler
cups.service
loaded active running CUPS
Scheduler
dbmail-imapd.service
loaded active running DBMail
IMAP Server
dbmail-lmtpd.service
loaded active running DBMail
LMTP Server
dbmail-timsieved.service
loaded active running DBMail
SIEVE Server
dbus.service
loaded active running D-Bus
System Message Bus
dhcpd-guest.service
loaded active running DHCPD
Guest-WLAN
dhcpd-vmware.service
loaded active running DHCPD
VMWare
dhcpd.service
loaded active running DHCPD LAN
disk-tuning.service
loaded active exited
Optimize Read-Ahead
dovecot.service
loaded active running Dovecot
IMAP/POP3 Proxy
dracut-shutdown.service
loaded active exited Restore
/run/initramfs on shutdown
fedora-readonly.service
loaded active exited
Configure read-only root support
guest-arrakis.service
loaded active exited
VMware-Guest Arrakis
guest-testserver.service
loaded active exited
VMware-Guest Testserver
haveged.service
loaded active running Entropy
Daemon
hostapd-guest-interface.service
loaded active exited
Wireless-AP Guest Interface
hostapd-guest.service
loaded active running
Wireless-AP Guest
hostapd.service
loaded active running Wireless-AP
httpd.service
loaded active running Apache
Webserver
io-scheduler.service
loaded active exited
Optimize IO-Latency
iptables.service
loaded active exited IPv4
firewall with iptables
irqbalance.service
loaded active running
irqbalance daemon
kmod-static-nodes.service
loaded active exited Create
list of required static device nodes for the current kernel
lm_sensors.service
loaded active exited
Hardware Monitoring Sensors
mdmonitor.service
loaded active running
Software RAID monitoring and management
mpd.service
loaded active running Music
Player Daemon
mysqld.service
loaded active running MariaDB
Database
named.service
loaded active running DNS Server
network-guest-bridge.service
loaded active exited Network
Guest Bridge
network-wan-bridge.service
loaded active running Network
Internet Bridge
network-wlan-bridge.service
loaded active exited Network
LAN Bridge
network.service
loaded active exited LSB:
Bring up/down networking
ntpd.service
loaded active running Network
Time Service
openvpn-server.service
loaded active running OpenVPN
Server
openvpn.service
loaded active running OpenVPN
Client
polkit.service
loaded active running
Authorization Manager
postfix.service
loaded active running Postfix MTA
powersave.service
loaded active exited
Power-Management
preload.service
loaded active running
Readahead Daemon
pulsed.service
loaded active running
Pulseaudio Daemon
pure-ftpd.service
loaded active running
Pure-FTPd Server
replication.service
loaded active running MariaDB
Replication
rngd.service
loaded active running Entropy
Daemon (Hardware RNG)
rsyslog.service
loaded active running Syslog
Service
rtkit-daemon.service
loaded active running
RealtimeKit Scheduling Policy Service
sddm.service
loaded active running Simple
Desktop Display Manager
smartd.service
loaded active running Self
Monitoring and Reporting Technology (SMART) Daemon
smb.service
loaded active running Samba
SMB Daemon
smokeping.service
loaded active running Smokeping
sshd.service
loaded active running OpenSSH
Server
sysctl-post-network.service
loaded active exited apply
settings after network
systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service
loaded active exited
Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness of backlight:acpi_video0
systemd-fsck-root.service
loaded active exited File
System Check on Root Device
systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-1abf071b\x2d0c78\x2d4b82\x2dbb21\x2db3dfb269afa8.service
loaded active exited File System Check on
/dev/disk/by-uuid/1abf071b-0c78-4b82-bb21-b3dfb269afa8
systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-1de836e4\x2de97c\x2d43ee\x2db65c\x2d400b0c29d3aa.service
loaded active exited File System Check on
/dev/disk/by-uuid/1de836e4-e97c-43ee-b65c-400b0c29d3aa
systemd-journal-flush.service
loaded active exited Flush
Journal to Persistent Storage
systemd-journald.service
loaded active running Journal
Service
systemd-logind.service
loaded active running Login
Service
systemd-random-seed.service
loaded active exited
Load/Save Random Seed
systemd-remount-fs.service
loaded active exited Remount
Root and Kernel File Systems
systemd-sysctl.service
loaded active exited Apply
Kernel Variables
systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
loaded active exited Create
Static Device Nodes in /dev
systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
loaded active exited Create
Volatile Files and Directories
systemd-udev-trigger.service
loaded active exited udev
Coldplug all Devices
systemd-udevd.service
loaded active running udev
Kernel Device Manager
systemd-update-utmp.service
loaded active exited Update
UTMP about System Boot/Shutdown
systemd-user-sessions.service
loaded active exited Permit
User Sessions
systemd-vconsole-setup.service
loaded active exited Setup
Virtual Console
udisks2.service
loaded active running Disk
Manager
user@0.service
loaded active running User
Manager for UID 0
user@4500.service
loaded active running User
Manager for UID 4500
user@48.service
loaded active running User
Manager for UID 48
user@500.service
loaded active running User
Manager for UID 500
user@6000.service
loaded active running User
Manager for UID 6000
vmware-authentication.service
loaded active exited VMware
Authentication Daemon
vmware-modules.service
loaded active exited VMware
Modules
vmware-usb.service
loaded active exited VMware
USB Arbitration Service
vmware-vmnet.service
loaded active running VMware
Virtual Machine Ethernet
vmware.service
loaded active exited VMware
Workstation Service
vnstat.service
loaded active running vnstat
traffic monitor
zram.service
loaded active exited Enable
compressed swap in memory using zram
Anyway, I am just asking, if anyone who understands the architecture
of KDE/Plasma5 thinks the performance of this aspect will likely
improve or get worse and why KDE/Plasma5 is so much worse than
previous versions on spinning disk systems
which is not true - frankly on a proper configured system running Fedora
24/25 with plasma5 "iostat 1" most of the time shows no IO at all and if
i am not careful with my settings that below happens - the rotating
disks spin down and get waked up every few minutes and that mostly is
triggered by my muisc player loads the next track in background
Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 099 099 020 Old_age Always
- 1154
Power_On_Hours 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always
- 1527
Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always
- 2
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Sorry, I don't understand what is not true in my statement, I think I
just asked a question?
it's not true that KDE5 got worse, not at this moment, with the F22
release it was a unusebale bunch of crap which took ages to login with
no cpu or disk activity but these days are long gone
Its the boot up time I am mainly concerned with, once loaded the
KDE/Plasma5 is quite responsive although parts of it does hang for
periods with a lot of disk/NFS activity
NFS activity?
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