On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I completely agree with your assessment. I certainly hope that the people who voted for Firefox explain their rationale. If I'm missing something, I would
Folks, Rex requested that this this thread be reserved for voting... I opened another thread where we can discuss this. I'll respond there...
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Rex requested that I start a separate thread on this if I believed it
> warranted further discussion. I believe it does. I believe that the
> current voting proposal currently underway for the selection of default
> browser does not align with the mission statement of the Fedora KDE SIG.
>
> Below is the text of my previous message which was attached to the initial
> voting results. I understand that some voting has yet to be completed -
> but unless I am mistaken this isn't suppose to be a vote about browser
> personal preference. It is suppose to be a vote about which browser
> aligns with the published mission of the KDE SIG.
Since you are reposting your message, I am also going to repost my reply.
:-)
> Thanks very much Rex for posting this so quickly. I would be interested
> in understanding the reason people voted the way they did. The issue IMO
> is that normally, when selecting a default you have well defined criteria
> for making the decision. This assists in making sure that everyone is on
> the same page and is making an objective decision. For example, as I
> mentioned before I'm a big proponent of all things Chrome - but even if
> the Chromium that exists in the Fedora repository was in a state that
> what I would consider stable (it's not, IMO) I would still choose
> qupzilla in
> this instance. It fits into what I believe would be the mission of the
> KDE spin.
+1
> Obviously, there is an extreme disconnect between what I believe the
> mission to be, and the opinion of others. I believe the lack of clarity
> is causing friction. There can be a big difference between personal
> preference and adherence to a defined mission.
Indeed. I also get the feeling that some voters are insisting on Firefox
out of personal preference.
> From the wiki:
>
> "The KDE SIG (Special Interest Group) is a group of Fedora contributors
> that maintain KDE <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE > packages in
> Fedora. Their mission is to provide high-quality, usable KDE software
> packages to Fedora users and developers and to support one another in
> maintaining those packages."
>
> Granted, qupzilla is not an official KDE project, but it is definitely
> using KDE based technologies. That tells me that all things considered,
> if there is a browser that uses these technologies, and is functional -
> that it should be favored over other contenders - unless there is a
> complelling reason. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see that
> "compelling reason". Personal preference does NOT outweigh a mission
> statement.
I agree completely.
> What am I missing here? From an outsider looking in, it appears that
> everyone is voting based upon different criteria and not adhering to the
> mission statement. Voting members have a responsibility to be consistent
> and objective.
Right. This is exactly why I requested justification in the meeting, but
the request was shot down.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Mattia Verga <mattia.verga@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Given these outputs I vote for Qupzilla because it does not require GTK stuff and it weights less than a half compared to Chromium (I'm thinking to live images).
I completely agree with your assessment. I certainly hope that the people who voted for Firefox explain their rationale. If I'm missing something, I would
like to understand it. I can't fathom, considering the circumstances, how someone could choose Firefox other than it is their personal preference.
I find the last sentence completely incomprehensible.
Why do you use KDE?
Why do you drive your particular make of car?
Surely not because it is someone else's preference?
Except perhaps the wife.
Folks, Rex requested that this this thread be reserved for voting... I opened another thread where we can discuss this. I'll respond there...
Timothy, you're completely missing my point. I am referring to the way I perceive that people are voting for a default browser. I don't believe
it is appropriate to vote based upon your personal likes and dislikes. Please re-read the above comment, and if you still don't understand what
I was trying to say, I'll do my best to explain it. You don't have to agree with it - it is just my viewpoint. BTW, as I stated previously - my browser
preference is Chrome because I'm a heavy user of all things Google - but if I were voting on the default browser for the KDE spin... I would not
choose Chromium. I don't believe it advances what should be our core principles.
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