Reindl Harald wrote: > well, the problem is that we (as users) spend so much of our life time > by waiting for "making xyz better" - that works only well if things > where not better in the past, but after some iterations of "waiting for > things getting better" aka "waiting how the become mature as that what > you had before" you just get tired And each time something finally starts working well, it gets replaced by a new rewritten or heavily modified version that's completely broken. It's not specific to KDE, I've seen the same issue throughout Fedora. See, e.g., how DNF *still* lacks several Yum features, including essential ones such as: * --downloadonly * --advisory=FEDORA-2015-nnnnn * reliable Obsoletes handling so that split packages have a reproducible upgrade path that does not lose parts of what users had installed etc. (and that doesn't even consider the related PackageKit-hif backend, which implements at most half of what a PackageKit backend is supposed to implement, "by chance" the parts that GNOME Software happens to use). But KDE also suffers a lot from this problem. See major new versions of Plasma, see Akonadi (that is still utterly broken years after its introduction where KMail 1 just worked), see also some individual applications such as KsCD (a working application replaced by a half-assed student project (!) rewrite, on the grounds that the old one was "unmaintained"; well, of course the student rewrite is unmaintained too now that the project has long ended), etc. > you get with each iteration of "we throw away working things and now you > user have to wait for a unknown number of years to get them mature > again" more tired until you are at the point "why in the world do i > waste my life for waiting things to get mature again and not just accept > that the whole IT is broken, leave it at all and start a fast food > restaurant" +1 Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org