On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jaroslav Reznik<jreznik at redhat.com> wrote: >> - Do you want to grow users of Fedora KDE? It's not like we are part of a separate distro. >> What users are you looking to >> attract? All users >> How do they differ from the target users of the Desktop spin? In personal tastes/preferences >> How would you market to them? I'm not sure I really understand this question. >> - Do you simply want KDE to be recognized as an important part of the >> Fedora project? Is KDE just an appendage of Fedora -- I think Fesco needs to simply cancel recognition of KDE in Fedora if that is the case. This limbo is getting old. >> There are many, many, many potential ways of doing that, >> that do not involve the 'Get Fedora' page at all. If getting KDE is not part of getting Fedora, then I think we have bigger problems than just visibility. >> - Do you just want KDE to be easy to find for the experienced KDE users >> that know what they're doing? There must be modifications we could do to >> address this case. How about all users, experienced KDE user or not? >> I'm trying to reverse-engineer your intentions. But I have NO CLUE what >> it is you're wanting. My blog has been flooded with complaints that >> there is no KDE link, and I've even been subject to rather harsh and >> unfair berating in IRC over this. Let's fix this by talking about your >> goals and your concerns about the problems this change is going to cause >> rather than demanding via multiple forms of communication that it should >> be added back without rationale. Is KDE the ginger kid in the school yard? Because that's the feel I get from this paragraph. >> No matter how many times I repeat it I do not think it is going to >> change - adding a KDE link to that page not only completely goes against >> the requirement of having one main default download on the page, but it >> really also goes against my professional opinion as a designer as what >> is best for making a page that will attract the types of users that the >> Board has told me they would like to make a try at. 1. the problem then must be the requirements 2. what type of user is the Board aiming for? The Ubuntu type? This entire discussion is getting dated -- either KDE is in Fedora or isn't. If I need to find a new distro, have the courtesy to let me know that. -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com)