Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Yes. Only KDE3 applications crash on exit. Many of them crash. > Exceptions that I found are kile, konversation. What I meant was: are there other KDE 3 apps (than K3b and Kaffeine) crashing? If so, which ones? > If its upstream doesn't care about the version X anymore, it is my > responsibility (as a power user and a packager) to tell them that they > are doing wrong. I do think that reverting F-11 to KDE3 would be a > striking lesson to upstream. I think it would be stupid, KDE 4 is now getting all the new features, it already has cool features KDE 3 doesn't have (Marble is great, for example). > I really have no other choice right now. I do not think the supported > hardware vendors will donate me a 200$ graphics card. You can buy a Radeon which works with the Free radeon driver for less than 40 USD. I see a PCI-Express Radeon X1550 (r5xx series, should be supported by the Free 3D drivers since Fedora 9 updates) selling for 15 EUR (including taxes) in Austria, that's below 20 USD. Kevin Kofler