On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:18:47AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:41:44AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > so as people know, the ansible repository is quite old. Fedora was one > > of the first big public ansible user, and as such, has a rather huge repo. > > > > And going where no one has gone before has the downside of not being > > able to build on others people experience with the new tools, resulting in > > sometime less optimal solutions, or using older patterns, or just regular > > bitrot. And as people have seen on the list, I did sent a few patches > > for refactoring and cleaning things around as I did explore the repo, > > but I think it would be more efficient to work on that as a team. > > > > Therefor, I would like to know who would be interested by a hackfest during > > flock this year. The idea would be to focus on improving existing playbooks. > > And among the tasks, we could have: > > - convert tasks who are not to be roles (example, 2fa) > > - start using dependencies among roles (example, collectd, fedmsg) > > - move from yum modules to packages (to handle the yum to dnf change) > > I had a discussion with Toshio on IRC a while ago and the package module isn't > actually *the* answer to all our use-cases. For the simplest cases it will work, > but for example if we want/need to interact with repo (for example adding > infra-testing) then it won't work. > So a playbook like the upgrade_package one, is not really convertible to the > packages module :( My proposal is only to cover things along those lines: https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/commit/?id=9cea8170d4eabf19d5268b6f04aead48e0ad2f8e ie, instead of having several variation on "package installation', just have one so playbooks are shorter and more idiomatic. And looking on https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/yum_module.html vs https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/package_module.html show that indeed, there is a bit more options in yum modules that the generic wrapper :) > That being said, for roles where we only install packages, porting from yum/dnf > to packages should work, > > > - remove things < F21 (or EL 6 when applicable) > > - move handlers, vars, files to role (or role arguments) > > - move cronjob declaration to cron module (since currently, cron is not reloaded, > > so changes are not picked) > > > > and I think that alone would keep us busy. > > That's most of the time small tasks, so that would scale well to any number of participants, > > and with a low complexity, so open to everybody. > > > > I already did the proposal before the end of the Cfp, but I kinda > > forgot to send a email about it. > > > > Any people besides me interested ? > > I think it's a good idea. Eventually we could tackle a few of these during > technical debt fighting weeks as well. In a ideal world, we could also start to write some doc on the best practices, or improve ansible-lint to push people to follow those guidelines. Also, I can't really make sure I would be present for a technical debt fighting week, while I would be present for flock :) -- Michael Scherer _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
