On 25 February 2016 at 17:56, Dennis Gilmore <dennis@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thursday, February 25, 2016 05:37:25 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> Greetings. >> >> So, we pride ourselves on having a 100% free and open infrastructure >> software wise. However, we have had some exceptions (the autocloud vbox >> test machine, etc). >> >> For f24, the plan is to make workstation downloads at least prefer to >> download a usb media creator, and then that downloads the images, >> verifies them and writes them to usb in a sane/best manner. >> >> Producing the Fedora/linux version of this is no problem, it's just a >> package. >> >> However, windows and osx are a different matter. >> >> For windows, we could run a windows vm and attach it to koji (it >> supports windows builders I think). This would of course mean that we >> would need to run a windows builder vm. ;( Or we could have a isolated >> hw instance that we only power on for windows builds. > Koji does support windows builds. Not sure what exactly we need to do to > script the build but the way itw orks is using a linux host it clones a lvm > snapshot spins up a vm and does the tasks inside of the vm. It then shuts it > down and removes the snapshot. We then just have to manage the master snapshot > used and do not have to have a windows machine up 24/7. Though we may need > something to do the binary signing > > >> For osx, I don't think you can virtualize it at all, and koji has no >> support, so we would need to have an isolated osx instance available >> for building the osx media creator. (possibly only running on demand). > > Koji does not support osx but I was told the amount of work should not be too > much. Afaik we can not virtualise it at all and would need to run a OSX box > No we can not legally virtualise OSX without OSX hardware. [You can frankenstein it but that violates various agreements and not going to happen here.] A mac mini in a shelf is probably all we need for this. Locking it down so it doesn't end up being a base of operations is a bit of work but not too much. >> We could of course just say: sorry, no non free oses in our >> infrastructure, but I fear this will result in builds done ad-hock on >> someones test machine that aren't reproducible or all the other things >> we expect from products we release. ;( > > I am sure if we say no that is exactly what will happen. In the short term I > am pushing to make those test machines be boxes/vms at my desk but that is not > long term sustainable > > >> Mostly this is just a heads up, but if anyone has ideas, feel free to >> bring them up. ;) > > Thanks, and as ick as it is, the goal is noble, make it easier to run get > fedora up and running. > > Dennis > _______________________________________________ > infrastructure mailing list > infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
