On 22 January 2016 at 14:33, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So, I sent an email a while back about this to get people thinking, but > I didn't get too much feedback from my questions, so this time I am > going to actually outline a proposal for people to look at. ;) > > Currently users expect pretty much any public service we have is fully > supported. This means things like updating status when it's down, > working anytime something is down to fix it as quickly as we can. > New applications/services currently all pass through the (somewhat > long) RFR process which we setup to make sure we could support the > service moving forward. > This looks good but I had to go look up what RFR meant and what its process: Request for Resources https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Request_For_Resources > This is great and all, but some services just aren't as sustainable, or > don't really fit into our RFR process very well. Also, our RFR process > makes us pretty slow to bring a new service online properly. > > In order to have support levels, we need a way to communicate that to > our users easily and the only/best way I can think of to do that easily > is via domain name. If we try and have a table or something it could > get pretty confusing for people. Tying it to domain names would make it > much easier. > > So: > > fedoraproject.org - Anything with this domain is something that has > passed though our RFR process and we support fully. This means we > update status, we alert on them anytime they have issues, we work on > them anytime they are down, etc. > Usually when doing "support levels" there is the need to come up with response times. I don't know if we can really do that since we don't have business hours and such. > fedorainfracloud.org - This comes with a lesser level of support, > simply because our cloud doesn't have any kind of HA setup, so > it will be down when doing maint or when there's problems. Services in > this domain may be down when there is scheduled cloud maint. We > monitor, but don't page off hours, we may work on issues only during > business hours, etc. Services here may not have passed through our RFR > process (perhaps we should have a parallel cloud process) > Things like copr go under fedorainfracloud.org correct? > stg.fedoraproject.org - These can be down anytime and we monitor on > them, but may not work on them off hours, etc. > > someother domain that sounds fedora related (fedorarelated.org? > fedoralinks.org? ?) - These are things that are fedora related, but not > fully controlled by fedora infrastructure. Things like the fedora > bootstrap site or the porting python3 in fedora site, or possibly cloud > instances that aren't managed by us. These we don't monitor or have > status on, and direct people to contact the managers directly. > > Any other types of sites / domains people can think of? > Things we get pinged on at times which are Red Hat related but we don't control. I know we get occasional "gnome.org?" and "softwarecollections.org" and similar questions which we know who to contact but have nothing but that. > Any general thoughts on the idea? > > kevin > > _______________________________________________ > infrastructure mailing list > infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx