Re: Support levels and RFR adjustments

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On 22 January 2016 at 14:33, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> So, I sent an email a while back about this to get people thinking, but
> I didn't get too much feedback from my questions, so this time I am
> going to actually outline a proposal for people to look at. ;)
>
> Currently users expect pretty much any public service we have is fully
> supported. This means things like updating status when it's down,
> working anytime something is down to fix it as quickly as we can.
> New applications/services currently all pass through the (somewhat
> long) RFR process which we setup to make sure we could support the
> service moving forward.
>

This looks good but  I had to go look up what RFR meant and what its process:

Request for Resources
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Request_For_Resources


> This is great and all, but some services just aren't as sustainable, or
> don't really fit into our RFR process very well. Also, our RFR process
> makes us pretty slow to bring a new service online properly.
>
> In order to have support levels, we need a way to communicate that to
> our users easily and the only/best way I can think of to do that easily
> is via domain name. If we try and have a table or something it could
> get pretty confusing for people. Tying it to domain names would make it
> much easier.
>
> So:
>
> fedoraproject.org - Anything with this domain is something that has
> passed though our RFR process and we support fully. This means we
> update status, we alert on them anytime they have issues, we work on
> them anytime they are down, etc.
>

Usually when doing "support levels" there is the need to come up with
response times. I don't know if we can really do that since we don't
have business hours and such.

> fedorainfracloud.org - This comes with a lesser level of support,
> simply because our cloud doesn't have any kind of HA setup, so
> it will be down when doing maint or when there's problems. Services in
> this domain may be down when there is scheduled cloud maint. We
> monitor, but don't page off hours, we may work on issues only during
> business hours, etc. Services here may not have passed through our RFR
> process (perhaps we should have a parallel cloud process)
>

Things like copr go under fedorainfracloud.org correct?

> stg.fedoraproject.org - These can be down anytime and we monitor on
> them, but may not work on them off hours, etc.
>
> someother domain that sounds fedora related (fedorarelated.org?
> fedoralinks.org? ?) - These are things that are fedora related, but not
> fully controlled by fedora infrastructure. Things like the fedora
> bootstrap site or the porting python3 in fedora site, or possibly cloud
> instances that aren't managed by us. These we don't monitor or have
> status on, and direct people to contact the managers directly.
>
> Any other types of sites / domains people can think of?
>

Things we get pinged on at times which are Red Hat related but we
don't control. I know we get occasional "gnome.org?" and
"softwarecollections.org" and similar questions which we know who to
contact but have nothing but that.


> Any general thoughts on the idea?
>
> kevin
>
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