On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 06:37 +0100, Tristan Santore wrote: > On 28/05/10 06:08, Ian MacGregor wrote: > > Greetings, > > My name is Ian MacGregor and my Fedora Project information can be found > > here: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ardchoille42 > > > > Please accept my apologies if I'm sending this information to the wrong > > mailing list. > > > > I was involved in an incident in which a channel operator on IRC > > conducted himself in behavior that I felt was harassing and unfair. I > > checked many pages in the wiki and did not see any sort of IRC Council > > that I could go to in order to report an op who is not complying with > > the IRC operators code of conduct: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IRC_operators_code_of_conduct > > > > Where can a normal user go to report misbehaving channel operators? > Hello Ian, > > I feel your pain, although I was not present when you had your issue, > some operators have behaviour, that in my humble opinions is not > acceptable. I myself have been annoyed about that in the past, but more > recently I have just abstained from helping people (who needed help), > due to some OPs being stupid, or because some other users were being > abusive. It is not my loss, but a loss to the users. > I was told by somebody to report the issue to the #fedora-ops channel, > but as you will find out, all ops are there. So, quite frankly, that is > a rubbish idea, which is why I never complained. > > Then, there seems to be no real complaints procedure, besides the fact, > that some people (op or not) seem to be immune to being asked by > operators, to conduct themselves according to the guidelines set out in > that document you posted. > > Somebody told me to bring these issues to the attention of spot, Tom > Callaway, but then I personally believe Tom is so busy, last he wants to > deal with is such issues (just me I guess. I don't like to harass people > I like and I know are busy). > > I guess you could go to the relevant channel meeting. I guess your issue > happened in the support channel i.e. #fedora. > > There is a irc support meeting which takes place every so often. You > should be able to find information about it on the wiki. > > Apart from that, I personally always got the feeling nobody cares, which > is a shame, as I guarantee, that we put off so many people from using > Fedora or even Linux (people switching from that proprietary system). > > I can understand that support work is frustrating, but then again, > nobody is forcing people to support, and the irc support guide says, if > one gets annoyed one should step back and excuse oneself. > > Anyway, maybe you have more luck, enthusiasm to do something about it. > After I spoke to some people, I got the impression it was pointless, > and must even admit, that I was so annoyed I kinda lost interest in > Fedora as a whole for a bit. But then, I really love it, so now I just > try and avoid the irc support channel, or just part it when some idiot > annoys me (quite a few of those are allowed to roam there). > > All the best and good luck. You got my vote anyway! > > Regards, > > Tristan > > P.s.: And yeah, this is not the right place to discuss this, but then > there is not anywhere else, afaik. > Well, I won't stop helping the Fedora Project because I feel this community is quite awesome and I'm happy to be a part of it. I'm going to stick with this and see what I can do to make a change. Thank you for the information :) -- Regards, Rev. Dr. Ian MacGregor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ardchoille42 _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
