Spent the day chatting with a bunch of Fedora Atomic users today. Some pain points that came out of todays discussions: - kubernetes versions * sometimes we have lagged behind upstream in Fedora and this has caused some pain. They are on board with containerized kubernetes as a solution to this problem. - installing small operating system agents * have some small agents that need to run as a daemon on the host some solutions: ^ build own ostree - more maintenance ^ package layer - requires reboot ^ run in container - large containers for small agents ^ run as container that acutally bind mounts in host directories ` very small container with just the agent ` when container runs it bind mounts in software from the host. i.e. using the hosts python stack. I don't know if this will work but just thought of it as we were talking today. ` i'm sure this may be a bad idea on several levels. - pre-loading containers on system startup * there is a need for being able to load containers on system startup into the container runtime. I think jlebon already worked on something like this maybe. Either way the idea is that we have a service that looks in a certain directory in the filesystem for container images and loads them into the runtime on startup and then deletes those images (or not depending on configuration). One could start a cloud image and mount a volume that these images are already loaded into. One could crack open the qcow and cp the files in, etc. Doesn't matter how they get to the "pre-defined" location, we'll import them. Dusty _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list -- cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to cloud-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx