On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:47:00AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > For a practical example: Ansible doesn't currently support Python 3. If > > we change the cloud image to python3 — as is the expected plan, right? > Remains to be seen. I'm skeptical the distro-wide default will switch tbh. Good to know. > > — having that system python there doesn't provide any benefit. It's > > just extra weight. > Um, ok. It's extra weight for people that don't use python. In this It's extra weight for people who don't use _that_ python. > case, what would be the solution to getting python on your cloud > image? Would you do it via SCL or via some kind of container overlay > or? Yes. Or just `dnf install` if the version is right. Just like you would with ruby or whatever else. > > The early PRD called for a library of different images for different > > purposes, in addition to the base, and I think we're still interested > > in that — it's just not ready yet. That might include various > > ansible-ready or puppet-ready images, possibly with other tools > > installed as fits the use case. > That sounds like it will have all the problems we currently face with > Spins. Too many choices, too much burden to produce, too little > overall benefit for deviation, too niche, too much churn from release > to release and new tech of the day. Why would we choose to repeat > those same mistakes? I think that's why it hasn't been done yet. The plan would be for them to be largely auto-generated and auto-tested, unlike spins (which, as largely desktop/GUI focused outputs, are hard to test automatically). > While I have no vested interest in Cloud, I'd rather see an image that > is flexible with utilities for people to customize and build on top of > even if that means it isn't the tiniest, thinnest image out there. Oh, it won't be. The tiniest, thinnest images are in the 10MB range. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
