----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Hampton" <error@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:45:51 PM > Subject: Re: Disabling firewalld on AWS? > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/10/2013 11:36 PM, Sam Kottler wrote: > > Given the deny-by-default nature of security groups I think it makes sense > > to disable firewalld in the AMI's. I haven't seen any other AMI's that > > have a firewall enabled by default and we probably shouldn't break that > > pattern IMO. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > This is easily one of my least-favorite "features" of certain Linux > distributions. > > Debian/Ubuntu images don't have a firewall enabled by default in their cloud > images because they don't have a firewall enabled at all in a default > installation. At least the last time I looked at them; maybe they've gotten > smarter in the last couple of years. > > I'm not really sure I see a benefit here. There may not even be a second > firewall in front of the virtual machine; a user might turn it off because > it's getting in the way, or a cloud provider might not provide this feature > at all. I know of at least one public cloud provider which has an external > firewall feature similar to AWS security groups, but it's off by default. In > this case I see plenty of downside. If people disable their firewall then that's their prerogative, but it's confusing and non-standard to have a firewall running on the instance and one running via the security group(s) that the host is in. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSL+dvAAoJEJICkBIKCqxc/esP/1/xqnHrxYLhlvS5ecgmx3zb > 3SSHFeeD2MKQvVkkOlsjoj0oYX17bmWeKxFzpjI7fUBCLb1vsVl1L19QbluGHElA > QcKMzyCwfoZuAMZ804SRpty2hx0RSsbVpw0gDMVfBCWDjPFXzxt+PVK/tkIRHGDe > k0DMbQd9WtM2BPPPjEeBu72YGnsWNBBHRb+4E9thg1FunX4RkeZ3qw7wgVlg3dCK > TH0PkJrJKedWKHUVzcR+dZqxk1thGtWYSw1fJM3Vbk9UPuZxFcxOOjTXYtNkQaO3 > LL4x35UMi1pOIC20Ga9nXoMiRex1fLoO2autbJQfwLWnyCBTO/FvDxj9WUDtklFE > yt/9t7Y7FH63sBvc6MOi+L7i4ZNZCMlHnZAKpF5jQ7OcOG+a/tftE2E8DUgAJwEG > VnMIQPCMCGnYTkrqcsG6pcAz8RxoHMGXaGE3VYRLA0rtc6KeCEB8JuddXJ24Yst7 > DNwprVK/O/sf9akniyFHHeimXhvBdhnRCS+uak0/JuRTGRvwEHJ37EeyuwHeCViL > F8rq9OLG6uN/CPwT0n5fRnZp30XKQc0wODUOCH9vcp6EVoozvFJF3MRWSjM3nBcO > /UKGvPFb2ZNgbGqZxkBsYBVrY12kcQX0Vo6B5IktEV5S1PmwBPOklGJnCCrpEiYq > M2TLP9xhvLIHasY2Dl3G > =S1Yb > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct