-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/2013 11:36 PM, Sam Kottler wrote: > Given the deny-by-default nature of security groups I think it makes sense to disable firewalld in the AMI's. I haven't seen any other AMI's that have a firewall enabled by default and we probably shouldn't break that pattern IMO. > > Thoughts? > This is easily one of my least-favorite "features" of certain Linux distributions. Debian/Ubuntu images don't have a firewall enabled by default in their cloud images because they don't have a firewall enabled at all in a default installation. At least the last time I looked at them; maybe they've gotten smarter in the last couple of years. I'm not really sure I see a benefit here. There may not even be a second firewall in front of the virtual machine; a user might turn it off because it's getting in the way, or a cloud provider might not provide this feature at all. I know of at least one public cloud provider which has an external firewall feature similar to AWS security groups, but it's off by default. In this case I see plenty of downside. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSL+dvAAoJEJICkBIKCqxc/esP/1/xqnHrxYLhlvS5ecgmx3zb 3SSHFeeD2MKQvVkkOlsjoj0oYX17bmWeKxFzpjI7fUBCLb1vsVl1L19QbluGHElA QcKMzyCwfoZuAMZ804SRpty2hx0RSsbVpw0gDMVfBCWDjPFXzxt+PVK/tkIRHGDe k0DMbQd9WtM2BPPPjEeBu72YGnsWNBBHRb+4E9thg1FunX4RkeZ3qw7wgVlg3dCK TH0PkJrJKedWKHUVzcR+dZqxk1thGtWYSw1fJM3Vbk9UPuZxFcxOOjTXYtNkQaO3 LL4x35UMi1pOIC20Ga9nXoMiRex1fLoO2autbJQfwLWnyCBTO/FvDxj9WUDtklFE yt/9t7Y7FH63sBvc6MOi+L7i4ZNZCMlHnZAKpF5jQ7OcOG+a/tftE2E8DUgAJwEG VnMIQPCMCGnYTkrqcsG6pcAz8RxoHMGXaGE3VYRLA0rtc6KeCEB8JuddXJ24Yst7 DNwprVK/O/sf9akniyFHHeimXhvBdhnRCS+uak0/JuRTGRvwEHJ37EeyuwHeCViL F8rq9OLG6uN/CPwT0n5fRnZp30XKQc0wODUOCH9vcp6EVoozvFJF3MRWSjM3nBcO /UKGvPFb2ZNgbGqZxkBsYBVrY12kcQX0Vo6B5IktEV5S1PmwBPOklGJnCCrpEiYq M2TLP9xhvLIHasY2Dl3G =S1Yb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct