On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Robyn Bergeron <robyn.bergeron@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:34 PM, David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> F17 is not ready for automated deployment and hands off yum updates at the >>> customer's sole management -- it hangs wayy too often. >>> >>> In part I don't understand why F17 is so unsuitable; The move to grub2, and >>> its partial completion have caused reboots to fail without warning through >>> updates. It was bad enough to induce us to remove F17 images we had >>> previously made visible to end customers, as the support load exploded and >>> the cusomers did not want to pay for support on a bleeding edge, and >>> unfinished product. F15 and 16 were fine (there was a niggling issue on F16 >>> we had to address) >>> >>> -- Russ herrold >>> >> >> Hi Russ, >> >> This is incredibly valuable feedback. If it's not overly proprietary >> information, I'd be fascinated to know what the relative support load >> from various distros is over their various releases. Any chance you >> track that information?? >> Would you mind sharing what hypervisor/container you were using. >> Aside from constant reboots, post-update reboots, is there any >> additional areas for testing that you found need more >> attention/testing? > > And not to distract from that the above information or train of > thought in general - I will casually mention that this is the type of > thing that makes me think that starting to work with QA on a better > (or perhaps "existent") set of criteria / testing process for cloud > images. I think right now for EC2 it is basically "does it boot" - > and IIRC the switch to grub2 certainly hosed us up quite a bit. +1 ... it sounds like there will be more that we _can_ test with cloud-init 0.7 in the picture. > Does anyone test the creation and usage of their own images using > other tools around alpha/beta, or simply wait until > post-final-release? > I've done a couple of rounds of testing with ami-creator as the builder and Eucalyptus as the target cloud. This is the first Fedora release I've done that for during alpha/beta, though. I've tried to use a kickstart as close as possible to the official Fedora one from cloud-kickstarts; seems okay so far. Andy _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud