On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:34 PM, David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> F17 is not ready for automated deployment and hands off yum updates at the >> customer's sole management -- it hangs wayy too often. >> >> In part I don't understand why F17 is so unsuitable; The move to grub2, and >> its partial completion have caused reboots to fail without warning through >> updates. It was bad enough to induce us to remove F17 images we had >> previously made visible to end customers, as the support load exploded and >> the cusomers did not want to pay for support on a bleeding edge, and >> unfinished product. F15 and 16 were fine (there was a niggling issue on F16 >> we had to address) >> >> -- Russ herrold >> > > Hi Russ, > > This is incredibly valuable feedback. If it's not overly proprietary > information, I'd be fascinated to know what the relative support load > from various distros is over their various releases. Any chance you > track that information?? > Would you mind sharing what hypervisor/container you were using. > Aside from constant reboots, post-update reboots, is there any > additional areas for testing that you found need more > attention/testing? And not to distract from that the above information or train of thought in general - I will casually mention that this is the type of thing that makes me think that starting to work with QA on a better (or perhaps "existent") set of criteria / testing process for cloud images. I think right now for EC2 it is basically "does it boot" - and IIRC the switch to grub2 certainly hosed us up quite a bit. Does anyone test the creation and usage of their own images using other tools around alpha/beta, or simply wait until post-final-release? > > --David > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud