OK, looks like Debian doesn't ship Skychart. On 03/23/2016 07:53 PM, Christian Dersch wrote: > Hi Mattia, > > at least for KStars that should be not a big deal as the catalog is also > available through KStars content downloader already used for additional > catalogs like Tycho. I think we should query upstream projects on > details. Also, if Fedora is affected at least Debian (and thus Ubuntu) > and openSUSE are affected too, so we have the majority of Linux users. I > will discuss with KStars developers as the upstream tarballs are also > nonfree then. > > For me retiring all related packages is really not an option, we would > loose one of the main features of the Astronomy Spin. For Skychart: Is > the affected package the main package or an additional data package? > > There are also free resources: > http://cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/Cat?VII/1B created by NASA => should > be in the public domain. But the one from W. Steinicke seems to be the > best one... > > Greetings, > Christian > > On 03/23/2016 07:16 PM, Mattia Verga wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm having a discussion on the Legal mailing list about the usage of >> databases like the Saguaro Astronomy Club catalog [2] or Dr. Wolfgang >> Steinicke NGC database [2]. >> For example Kstars uses the SAC catalog as source for its NGC >> database. From the SOURCES.readme file in kstars sources [3]: >>> SAC Catalog >>> =========== >>> >>> Part of our NGC/IC data is obtained from the Saguaro Astronomy Club >>> catalog, compiled by Steve Coe. >>> >>> While the website seemed to indicate that the catalog is only >>> available for non-commercial use (and hence incompatible with KStars), >>> Akarsh Simha received a correspondence with Steve Coe, who is the >>> Copyright holder of the catalog. >>> >>> Here are the relevant sections of the email exchange: >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> From: Steve Coe <stevecoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: Akarsh Simha <akarshsimha@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Date: 18th Dec 2008 >>> >>> Snippet: >>> >>> >>> Akarsh; >>> >>> I have no problem with you using the SAC data for the Kstars program. >>> It was released with the rules that it is not sold as a seperate item. >> The opinion on the Legal mailing list [4] is such sources are not >> compatible with Fedora/RHEL: >> From Tom Callaway reply: >>> Any license with a commercial use restriction is non-free. Material >>> under such a license must not be distributed in Fedora, either in source >>> or binary RPM. >> I think Skychart also uses SAC catalog for building its NGC database. >> If such sources are incompatible what choices we have to fix that? I >> don't find any other reliable and updated sources for NGC objects data >> and even if there is one I don't think all the developers will change >> their code only because Fedora doesn't like it. In Kstars case they >> also had the permission from SAC to use their data. >> So are the only choices to remove NGC catalogs from packages (with a >> major loss in usability) or to retire packages from Fedora/EPEL? >> >> Mattia >> >> >> [1] http://www.saguaroastro.org/content/downloads.htm >> [2] http://www.klima-luft.de/steinicke/ngcic/ngcic_e.htm >> [3] https://github.com/KDE/kstars/tree/master/kstars/data >> [4] >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/WFSHYAQRG7GS2OQSXRVAV64H2GHZAV2F/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora astronomy mailing list >> astronomy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/astronomy > _______________________________________________ > Fedora astronomy mailing list > astronomy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/astronomy _______________________________________________ Fedora astronomy mailing list astronomy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/astronomy
