Re: NGC catalog in Fedora/RHEL software

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Hi Mattia,

at least for KStars that should be not a big deal as the catalog is also
available through KStars content downloader already used for additional
catalogs like Tycho. I think we should query upstream projects on
details. Also, if Fedora is affected at least Debian (and thus Ubuntu)
and openSUSE are affected too, so we have the majority of Linux users. I
will discuss with KStars developers as the upstream tarballs are also
nonfree then.

For me retiring all related packages is really not an option, we would
loose one of the main features of the Astronomy Spin. For Skychart: Is
the affected package the main package or an additional data package?

There are also free resources: created by NASA => should
be in the public domain. But the one from W. Steinicke seems to be the
best one...


On 03/23/2016 07:16 PM, Mattia Verga wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm having a discussion on the Legal mailing list about the usage of
> databases like the Saguaro Astronomy Club catalog [2] or Dr. Wolfgang
> Steinicke NGC database [2].
> For example Kstars uses the SAC catalog as source for its NGC
> database. From the SOURCES.readme file in kstars sources [3]:
>> SAC Catalog
>> ===========
>> Part of our NGC/IC data is obtained from the Saguaro Astronomy Club
>> catalog, compiled by Steve Coe.
>> While the website seemed to indicate that the catalog is only
>> available for non-commercial use (and hence incompatible with KStars),
>> Akarsh Simha received a correspondence with Steve Coe, who is the
>> Copyright holder of the catalog.
>> Here are the relevant sections of the email exchange:
>> ----------
>> From: Steve Coe <stevecoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Akarsh Simha <akarshsimha@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: 18th Dec 2008
>> Snippet:
>> Akarsh;
>> I have no problem with you using the SAC data for the Kstars program.
>> It was released with the rules that it is not sold as a seperate item.
> The opinion on the Legal mailing list [4] is such sources are not
> compatible with Fedora/RHEL:
> From Tom Callaway reply:
>> Any license with a commercial use restriction is non-free. Material
>> under such a license must not be distributed in Fedora, either in source
>> or binary RPM.
> I think Skychart also uses SAC catalog for building its NGC database.
> If such sources are incompatible what choices we have to fix that? I
> don't find any other reliable and updated sources for NGC objects data
> and even if there is one I don't think all the developers will change
> their code only because Fedora doesn't like it. In Kstars case they
> also had the permission from SAC to use their data.
> So are the only choices to remove NGC catalogs from packages (with a
> major loss in usability) or to retire packages from Fedora/EPEL?
> Mattia
> [1]
> [2]
> [3]
> [4]
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