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Hi everyone,

I'd like to get involved with you all in getting IRAF into a package.  I would say I can't believe NOAO would do something as wrong as not using source control, but after looking at various scientific software I can't say I'm surprised.  :(

Anyway, I had a thought. What if we downloaded the source every time they release something, run a diff on it, then update the copy in Joseph's repository?  The Mac people have put together a package so they must know how to do it, but it's kinda scary - executable code in people's home directories, etc.

Oh, and if the IRAF team is getting funding for development maybe the funding authority should know what they're not doing.

Thanks -

Dave Schudel

-----Original Message-----
From: astronomy-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:astronomy-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian Dersch
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:29 AM
To: astronomy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  IRAF


first: Thank you very much for your work on the Mageia package, Joseph!
My package would be impossible without this work.

I also recognized the horrible project "management" by IRAF developers, hell of bundled libs and official source doesn't compile without modifications. This is also the reason why I don't want to maintain an official Fedora package for IRAF right now. There really have to be some changes upstream, github would be a very nice place for this. I also got some similar information from Ole Streicher (Debian packager) some time ago.


On 01/08/2015 01:55 PM, Joseph Wang wrote:
> Great to hear that someone has gotten IRAF to work.
> Unfortunately while I've been able to get the IRAF rpm's working, I 
> haven't been able to do any other work on it.  The problem is that the 
> maintainers of IRAF have this odd refusal to put IRAF into a version 
> control system, and without having some sort of version control, it's 
> pretty much impossible to coordinate development.  I don't care what 
> version control system that they use, but they some reluctant to use 
> any version control.
> I have a version of IRAF on github
> But it is missing the 2.16.1 patches, and I don't see how I can 
> incorporate 2.16.1 without version control.
> Either someone needs to convince the maintainers to have an official 
> tree, or someone needs to create a fork of IRAF that is on some 
> version control system.  They are very welcome to use my github tree.
> I tried gently getting the IRAF maintainers to put their stuff into 
> version control, but I gave up after it seem to be going nowhere.
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