Hi Daniel, On 9/21/20 12:31 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > The draft refers to "Adult content". Talking about the leader of an > organization having a romantic conflict of interest with the leader of > another organization is an ethical issue, not a pornographic one. > Nobody ever made reference to private or physical aspects of their > relationship. > It appears you found an older draft, probably the screenshot in the ticket. I believe it was Ben Cotton or Till Maas that pointed out the first draft of this policy tried to define too much. The conclusion I remember from the Pagure discussion is that this policy should not try to define what is or is not acceptable behavior. That is within the scope of the Code of Conduct. Here is the final proposed draft: https://pagure.io/fork/jflory7/Fedora-Council/council-docs/blob/6c5ce773170efea07869f355bb4e243944083ed2/f/council/modules/ROOT/pages/policy/community-publishing-platforms.adoc P.S. – If you use this Firefox add-on, you can render the AsciiDoc in HTML so it is easier to read: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/asciidoctorjs-live-preview/ > The first link[1] above includes the quote "Our intent is for all Fedora > community members to have a positive and welcoming experience in all > community spaces, official and unofficial." > > That appears to be a fantasy. No such organization ever existed, unless > it was an organization of one person. Every organization has to deal > with some conflict, politics and ethical issues from time to time. > I agree the language in the trademark guidelines might be dated today. It is an old document originally written in 2008 or earlier. In the current global environment, I think it is easier to acknowledge now that conflict is inevitable and we should plan for it. However, this involves revision to the Trademark Guidelines. It might be valuable to do, but it is out of scope for the Community Publishing Platforms proposal. It requires participation from Red Hat Legal (as far as I can tell). It should be driven in a new ticket. > The ACM's Code of Ethics also states "A computing professional should be > transparent and provide full disclosure of all pertinent system > capabilities, limitations, and potential problems to the appropriate > parties.". When the leader of a voluntary organization has a conflict > of interest, anybody else making a full disclosure to volunteers appears > to be acting ethically, even if the person with a conflict of interest > might not feel that is a "positive and welcoming experience" > The right to full disclosure is still permitted under this policy. A consideration of respectful communication in the act of full disclosure is also protected (via the Code of Conduct, not through the Community Publishing Platforms proposal). -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory (he/him) https://jwf.io TZ=America/New_York
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