On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:42 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:03 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Sorry for the tiny bit of necromancy, but I wanted to give a small > > update about this. OpenMandriva has decided to deploy a mailing list > > system again, and we're splitting development discussions back out to > > a traditional mailing list system. > > > Do you have a writeup somewhere on why you made this decision? If not, > can you share more details on the thought process here? > Unfortunately, we don't have a specific writeup for this as it was largely discussed in the openmandriva-cooker IRC channel. That said, it boiled down to several things: * It is too difficult to follow conversations properly in Discourse-based discussions and tagging arbitrary people is not possible (they have to be registered in the Discourse instance to be tagged, and that only works through the web UI). Being able to tag arbitrary people through Cc'ing them is considered quite valuable. * Discourse mail is very HTML heavy, which makes it cumbersome for a number of people. * Sending developer team-wide notices (like broken deps from regular checks, failed builds during mass rebuild, etc.) is much easier through a mailing list than through Discourse, as specific integrations weren't required. * Freeform conversation threading is not allowed by everyone in Discourse, whereas it's as easy as changing the subject line in an email. * Doing comprehensive filtering for conversations, threads, topics, and people is much more difficult with Discourse than mail. And really, the penultimate issue: * The effort required to properly participate in Discourse conversations vs regular mailing lists was higher, and high enough that the majority of developers just simply stopped communicating outside of IRC. This made asynchronous communication very difficult. Moreover, the total communication between developers/contributors and users went down over the past couple of years because of this. Enough was enough, and we rolled back. For the moment, we have a simple mail list system, and mail received is being forwarded to Discourse, with the cooker topic being a read-only mirror of the mailing list. Over time, the mail list system will evolve and I suspect we'll eventually disconnect it from Discourse entirely and replace it with a link to the mail list archiver. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
