On 1/7/19 1:59 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:38 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 1/7/19 1:04 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> ...snip... >> >>> It'd be better if it was easier for more people to participate. We >>> have a lot of infra-types. It's kind of amazing in a bad way that >>> despite all that, we don't really have an easy way for more people to >>> help on that side. >> >> There definitely is...become an appentice, send patches for things, get >> added to other groups and help out with that area. >> >> True more access takes more time, but we definitely have had community >> folks helping out. >> >> ...snip... >> > > Well, I guess I've been doing the "sending patches" thing for > different infrastructure things, but I don't know what this > apprenticeship thing is... Any info about that anywhere? it's pointed to from our getting started doc: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice ...snip... > openSUSE's donation program has the people usually ship the hardware > to them to be set up by the openSUSE Heroes (their equivalent of the > Fedora admin team). Alternatively, the route CentOS goes where control > is handed over is an option, too. But I think we'd be better served by > people giving us equipment (and maybe even money) and allowing people > to work on their paid time to contribute to leveraging that infra. I'm not sure the legal logistics of this. Is that a "donation"? Fedora doesn't exist as a legal entity to accept it as far as I know. Also, we have been offered donated hardware in the past, but it's usually more trouble than it's worth. (ie, "I was about to toss this PentiumIII box out, but I thought I would donate it to you instead"). All these are things we could work out however. ...snip... > If there's not much holding it back, we should transition to it > anyway. If it improves the management experience and performance of > the Copr system, it'd be a huge boon. I agree the hard part is hopefuly over, but there is still ongoing support (upgrades, updates, adding new machines, etc). kevin
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