On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:38 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 1/7/19 1:04 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > ...snip... > > > It'd be better if it was easier for more people to participate. We > > have a lot of infra-types. It's kind of amazing in a bad way that > > despite all that, we don't really have an easy way for more people to > > help on that side. > > There definitely is...become an appentice, send patches for things, get > added to other groups and help out with that area. > > True more access takes more time, but we definitely have had community > folks helping out. > > ...snip... > Well, I guess I've been doing the "sending patches" thing for different infrastructure things, but I don't know what this apprenticeship thing is... Any info about that anywhere? > > > > Pagure as a project is starting to pick up steam in its own right. And > > users outside of Fedora (both public and private) are also turning > > into contributors. If anything, this is one of the better successes > > we've had in a while. > > > > As for the feature development, Pagure is keeping pace with solutions > > like GitHub. We're now at the point where Pagure meets the features > > that Debian was requesting for their Alioth migration, and other > > groups are considering rolling out Pagure instances as well. > > > > As for the pagure.io forge, a large part of its lack of success is that > > people don't know how to move to it. Heck, even I don't really know > > how to effectively migrate a project from GitHub.com or GitLab.com or > > some other site to Pagure.io and migrate things like issues, PRs, etc. > > It is a good solution and it is developing rapidly into being a good > > competitor to the others. > > https://pagure.io/pagure-importer > was used to migrate things from trac, and it has a github mode, but I am > not sure what state it's in. > Hmm, we really should collect these things in one place so it's easier for people to find... > >>> * openstack (The big consumer here is copr... if it could move to the > >>> cloud or somewhere and we didn't need a openstack I would be very happy). > >> > >> Yes. I think this is something we can make happen. Possibly we can work > >> something out with Mass Open Cloud. > >> > > > > I think it's pretty obvious our Copr host platform (RHOSP 5) has been > > a disappointment. It's unfortunate that there's no formal avenue for > > people to sponsor and offer resources to improve services like Copr > > and assist with improving the quality of the service. People want to > > depend on it, and it's still not getting the love it needs. > > I'm not sure how donated resources could help here. > How could we trust that they were not tampering with builds? > How about someone donating instances that are all slow, slowing down > builds. > What happens if the network is down between copr and the donated stuff? > Its a can of worms. ;( I'm sure there are solutions to all these, but > copr doesn't have any of those in place currently. > openSUSE's donation program has the people usually ship the hardware to them to be set up by the openSUSE Heroes (their equivalent of the Fedora admin team). Alternatively, the route CentOS goes where control is handed over is an option, too. But I think we'd be better served by people giving us equipment (and maybe even money) and allowing people to work on their paid time to contribute to leveraging that infra. > > Supposedly it was going to be upgraded and improved, but I dunno > > what's going on there. Beyond that, we should consider making it > > possible for people and companies to be able to sponsor effort and > > resources in Fedora, similar to what openSUSE does. That's how their > > OBS has so much more resources than our Koji and Copr systems > > combined. > > I have been working on a new openstack for the last N months. > It's pretty close to ready finally, but it sounds like perhaps we want > to drop it and move stuff elsewhere now. > If there's not much holding it back, we should transition to it anyway. If it improves the management experience and performance of the Copr system, it'd be a huge boon. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
